Place Civil Label with "Leader"

Working with OpenRoads release 13.  The "Place Civil Label" label seems to have the (some) ability to use a MicroStation Dimension style to set the properties of the label.  But it only follows a limited portion of the dimension style settings. 

Dimension Style Levels are not being used by Place Civil Label, and dimension with leader uses only a "one segment" leader with no ability to add "In-Line Leader" or "Text Frame" options.  The Place Civil Label" with leader only adds an awkward looking one vertex leader from the object to the text. 

If you edit the dimension style and save it, then click yes to propagate the changes to the dimensions using that style, then leader level changes, and sometimes the text justification changes but not in a way that follows the dimension style settings.

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  • There are a lot of problems with the labeling in rotated views. It would appear Bentley only designed the tools to work a certain way, and they have not fixed them for other reasonable possible workflows.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

  • This is kinda disappointing and frustrating.  I mean, we're being herded to use ORD, but yet some (what seems to be) basic functionality may or may not work?

  • The entire concept of ORD is based on the premise that we label in the drawing model, which has a reference attachment that is already rotated to "flat", in preparation to be scaled and moved onto a static sheet border. While there might be something to be said for this approach, there are plenty of us who do our work a different way. And No, the tools haven't been developed to work any other way than "the Bentley Way".

    There are several areas where ORD offers little flexibility for those of us who have long-established workflows or specific deliverable requirements.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

  • Mary's already explained it, but I want it on the record that I use ORD's dynamic labels solely on no-plot layers. When it's time to actually create a plan sheet, I duplicate them all manually with dumb annotation notes. Pretty similar workflow to what I did with InRoads Tracking notes. No, my notes don't automatically update when the model changes, but: a) many times, I don't want the notes to update, and b) I'm a responsible professional and should be fully aware of which notes need to change when a change occurs. Having a dumb note shadowed by a dynamic note actually helps error check.

    It used to be that only fools manipulated their basefiles to match their sheet border, and I still believe that. Thank goodness that Print Organizer and pen tables still work, although I bet they're working on a way to get rid of them or make them worse - I mean, improve them.

  • If you put the in line leader in the cell the labels will work with rotated views.  To flip the label cell to the other side of the leader use the mirror command.

    Regards,

    Zane Pratt


    Civil Designer