scaling or replacing SS4 Lines and line strings in ORD

I have copied an SS4 Topo drawing into an ORD Seed file from the state DOT.

The scale of cells and linestyles is now whacked.

I used replace cells to gradually replace all the cells with the cells from the new ORD cell library.

How do I go about replacing / modifying / scaling all the lines and line strings (linestyles) in the ORD drawing?

Why are all the lines and line strings suddenly acting differently in ORD than SS4?

Thanks

  • Did you ever check the model properties for Line Style Scale. There are two settings possible and one known issue is that all reference files should share the same setting. Having some set one way and others set the other is a recipe for never ending line style scale issues. And generally, the active file setting gets applied to all reference files, so even if all reference files are set to match each other, a different setting in the master file will cause issues.


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • I'm glad you were able to get everything up and going.
    You're right - maybe next time just start by merging your "bad" drawings into a "good" blank file.  There's nothing wrong with fixing things if they can be fixed (and sometimes they can). But sometimes they just can't, and I'm glad you have a workaround now.

    I know I have seen posts here before about writing in the survey points, so hopefully a search will find you a good direction.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

  • I managed to finally get the Fenceline to convert using the process of compressing, deleting the workspace, etc.  The Gaurdrail would not convert, so I tried copying the entire file from the reference into the Seed file and it magically worked.

    I think that is the process I should have tried right from the start.

    For some reason the drawing was hanging on to these old linestyles.

    The 2 Topo drawings look wrong on their own (linestyles are tiny even at the 1"=40' scale, but somehow when referenced into a drawing of the exact same scale they look good.

    So for now I think I'm good.  

    I still have a lot of questions about a lot of things, but I'll try to figure them out on my own unless I get really stuck again.

    I now need to figure out how to write my point "Decorations" to graphics through the multitudes of steps and things I have to create.

    Thanks for your help and patience.

    Andrew

  • Well, it does answer some questions. It may not point to a solution, but it tells me part of what ISN'T the problem.

    This confirms that the linestyle is indeed applied ByLevel, and not per element. I've chased all sort of scaling issues before where someone drew an element on the correct level, but set the linestyle when they drew the element. They set it to the same linestyle AS the level, but the level no longer controlled that independent line. Trying to figure out why some lines responded to the ByLevel controls, but not "that one" had me going in circles. I wanted to make sure that we didn't accidentally have that situation.

    I'm glad you were able to fix your R/W drawing. No idea what that was...

    Strange question...if you try that same reference Merge into good clean file with bad drawing "A", does that solve the scaling problem?

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

  • I was able repair the R/W drawing by "copying" everything into the Seed File.

    Yes, I had to export the Alignment out of the bad file, then import it to the repaired file.

    Very strange as I created the R/W drawing from the Seed file.  Anyway the scale change to 1"=40' repaired the R/W line style.

    Now back to my Fenceline problem.  Both files show the linestyle properties to be the same.  I have the same problem with Gaurdrail.  i guess I'll try to change that style to "0", compress out the linestyle, then purge the workspace, then attach the style again and see if it changes.  I think it's somehow still hanging on to the SS4 linestyle from the photogrammetrist.  These are their lines.

    I know I've already done this, but it's all I can do.

    I'm attaching th screen captures of the fence line from the 2 different drawings.  Nothing to learn here. They are the same.