Adding data to a surface without re-cleaning

RE: Adding data to a surface without re-cleaning

caddcop — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 12:45:04 GMT

I know this might not be the ideal solution, but once you can upgrade to 10.12.01,59, the surface editing tools have some sort of history, so not only does it retain earlier edits, but you can selectively remove undo them if you realize that they were not correct. Check out the feature videos on YouTube.

RE: Adding data to a surface without re-cleaning

kojabov14 mitigadom — Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:34:39 GMT

One approach you can take is to use a feature called "split surface" or "split tool" in your surface editing software. This allows you to add new data to your surface without affecting the existing boundary or clean-up work you have done.

Here's how you can use the split tool to add new data to your surface:

Identify the area where you want to add new data. This area should be outside of the existing boundary.
Use the split tool to draw a new boundary around this area. This new boundary will be used to separate the existing surface from the new data you will be adding.
Use the surface editing tools to add the new data to the area inside the new boundary.
Once you have added the new data, you can merge the two surfaces back together using the merge tool. This will ensure that the new data is seamlessly integrated with the existing surface.

By using the split tool to add new data, you can avoid having to redo all of your clean-up work and create a new boundary. Instead, you can simply draw a new boundary around the area where you want to add data, and then merge the two surfaces back together once you're done.

RE: Adding data to a surface without re-cleaning

Lucas Hicks — Fri, 30 Dec 2022 13:57:27 GMT

Sort of figured that after I posted. Naming the tool "Add Boundary" when it "Extracts" or "Creates" a boundary is pretty misleading.

RE: Adding data to a surface without re-cleaning

Shawn Cooke — Fri, 30 Dec 2022 13:27:47 GMT

The Add Boundary tool shown extracts the boundary automatically. The only time you need to recreate the boundary with that tool is when data is added outside of the original boundary.

RE: Adding data to a surface without re-cleaning

Lucas Hicks — Thu, 29 Dec 2022 20:52:30 GMT

I asked in a previous post about extracting a terrain model boundary. I see you could do that before from the video. Where is that tool located in ORD. At least I could use the work flow in the video to get rid and keep the outer boundary as I need it.

RE: Adding data to a surface without re-cleaning

Shawn Cooke — Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:15:45 GMT

I believe the trick and often overlooked/misunderstood step is adding a boundary using the tool below. You should be able to prevent edge triangles that way... works whether ruled or not. ORD seems to remember if added, so "remove" if you need another set.

It's almost the same process as this 5 minute V8i video. https://youtu.be/84QfqWjnql8 I'm not sure Bentley changed the functionality all that much in ORD.

Also setting the Edge Method to "From Boundary" mode is required... This should carry through any changes.

If you're using Field Books to generate Terrains, yes they are not "editable" from the Terrain tools, however if there's a linear feature set to "Boundary" in its Terrain Model Attribute, it can be adjusted, moved, etc... using the standard Modify (Drawing Tab e.g. Delete Vertex) tools with Civil Accudraw enabled to define elevation.

RE: Adding data to a surface without re-cleaning

Lucas Hicks — Wed, 28 Dec 2022 15:39:39 GMT

It is pretty useless. Can't even delete edge triangles unless you want to remove the rules.

RE: Adding data to a surface without re-cleaning

MikeH — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 19:21:20 GMT

You can't. At least not that i've seen. We simply create all surfaces in one of many other user friendly software out there and import an XML file into the Microstation environment. Obviously if you don't have that at your disposal you're stuck using there extremely cumbersome and useless surface editing structure.