Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

RE: Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

Steven Litzau — Wed, 26 May 2021 14:59:49 GMT

Yes, each version of ORD seems to have one corresponding version, but I work weekly (if not daily) with clients that are in two different versions of ORD, 10,08.01.33 and 10.09.00.91. There is not a ProjectWise version listed in the link you shared that would work with both version of ORD.

The broader point is that there is a disconnect between the software Bentley is currently delivering and the needs of the users of that software. As I mentioned, the first and largest impact is Civil design software that does not permit a single user environment to use more than a single version of the software or resulting files. I have two computers because I have clients working in two different versions. What is my path forward once ORD 21R1 is released. Purchase a new workstation replacement laptop, and use 3 different computers?

RE: Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

Grzegorz Cwiek — Wed, 26 May 2021 14:46:56 GMT

Hi Steven,

[quote userid="911877" url="~/products/road___site_design/f/geopak-inroads-mx-openroads-forum/214321/issues-with-disappearing-data-on-open-roads-disaster/651944"]I find it quite interesting, however, that no single version of ProjectWise is certified for the two versions of OpenRoads Designer I currently have clients in.[/quote]

Which versions are these? As far as I can see, each of the OpenRoads Designer updates (starting with Update 1) was compatible with some corresponding version of ProjectWise.

Please take a look at the compatibility tool under this link (page 3), it will let you find out compatible versions:

app.powerbi.com/view

RE: Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

Steven Litzau — Wed, 26 May 2021 14:07:03 GMT

Grzegorz, thank you for sharing this. I find it quite interesting, however, that no single version of ProjectWise is certified for the two versions of OpenRoads Designer I currently have clients in. If the answer to a question of something working in a design software is dependent on the version of ProjectWise being run, then there needs to a much more comprehensive approach to your software.

I don't know to what level you have any input into the development of software, but this is just another example of Bentley products not accurately reflecting the real world environments your users work in. There have been many of us now expressing concerns over the schema compatibility issues in OpenRoads Designer and their impact on our ability to do our work. To support the clients we have, I currently have to run one version of ORD on my personal computer because I can't install both needed versions on my work machine. An agency is not going to be able to run different ProjectWise environments and software because a specific combination isn't supported or certified. I think the likelihood that Isaac gets to dictate what version of ProjectWise is run is likely pretty low, I would suspect he is just trying to complete a design effort.

Just sharing some candid thoughts here, at one point I very much felt Bentley was a partner in my efforts to serve my clients. As of late, it feels more and more as though you (as an organization) are disconnected from the real work being done by your clients with the products your provide.

Thanks for reading/listening.

Steve

RE: Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

Isaac Lopez — Tue, 25 May 2021 15:46:44 GMT

Okay, thanks

RE: Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

Isaac Lopez — Tue, 25 May 2021 15:46:26 GMT

The points were imported into the actual file. all the levels are turned on, suer strange

RE: Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

MaryB — Tue, 25 May 2021 15:35:32 GMT

Nice to know. Thank you!

RE: Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

Grzegorz Cwiek — Tue, 25 May 2021 14:58:29 GMT

Hi Mary, you check the compatibility between ProjectWise and other programs under this link:

docs.bentley.com/.../GUID-1A2E193F-C3D9-4709-92A2-E5B9301B5946.html

RE: Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

MaryB — Tue, 25 May 2021 13:12:34 GMT

Where would we find that information?

Is there a chart of which Bentley products are compatible/incompatible so that we can easily cross-reference this type of information?

RE: Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

Mark Shamoun — Tue, 25 May 2021 10:52:13 GMT

Hi Isaac,

Is this live data or linked to a reference? Is that reference still attached?

Are all your Level display settings turned on?

RE: Issues with disappearing data on Open Roads Disaster

Grzegorz Cwiek — Tue, 25 May 2021 09:49:39 GMT

Hi Isaac

Please note that OpenRoads Designer 10.09.00.91 is compatible with ProjectWise Update 3.3 and 3.4 (10.00.03.334 and 10.00.03.434). So if the issue is not reproducible with local copies of your DGNs on the hard drive, try updating your ProjectWise