placing text labels with delimit line

im trying to place text with a delimit line similar to SS10 geopak but Openroads doesnt have the plan labeling tool, is there a way to place text like below in openroads 

 

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  • Hey Gonzalo,  I ran into this in the FDOT workspace and training.  They don't give us one for "Roadway" per-say.  You'll need to try using the cell listed as ROW sta. offset rather than the text-favorite mentioned in training when you use the "Place Label" tool.  If you open the FDOTConnect standards folder (ours is C:\FDOTConnect\Organization-Civil\FDOT\Cell ) and open the ROW_Planviewlabeling.cel  file.  There you can copy any of the sta offset cell models and name them what you want and format as needed. It's important to keep the integrity of the "Text favorites" used within those cells or create your own from scratch.  Another note... Apparently the workspace only loads specific cel files for the label tool.  It must need to be hard coded. I'm curious if anyone in the forums knows where/how to assign these.  By adding my Roadway version to that ROW cel file, I was able to get it to show up in the tool dropdown 'Cell" option.  Simply placing a new  Roadway_PlanviewLabeling.cel file wasn't doing the trick.  

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  • I looked through a couple of the Bentley Videos mentioned by Mary, some worked, others didnt help. i tried creating my own cell but now the placement of they are off a bit. they are connecting to the center of the cell instead of the edge. the video didnt really explain the point of origin like when create new cells. it could be the same just have tested it yet. 

  • Here's a screenshot of the cell I've added.  I noticed all I had to do was to open that library from the regular cell placement tool.  Once the DGN sees that *.cel file active the "Place Label tool" list will populate with those new cells. Also note that any dimension styles using the same name as your cell will automatically load... so make one that has the formatting you need for said text cell (e.g. no arrow, no horz. leader,etc).  From there, all you need to do is ensure the text annotation scale works in the PLANRD file (if you used FDOT text styles, they should work).  The "Line" in the cell is a standard line that already existed in the ROW_PlanviewLabels.cel file.  I deleted all other irrelevant cells from that file once I had what I needed formatted correctly. 

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  • Thanks MaryB!   Have you had any luck dynamically shifting the line for longer text (larger station series) and flipping the justification?  I've also noticed TextStyles tend to resort back to defaults in ORD if that style is changed in the file.  Any idea how to accomplish both of those issues?  I was able to use the underline option with a specific offset.  It may be required to create a style and cell for each justification. 

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  • The frame I mentioned is (I believe) required for a label cell to "flip".
    I don't know about dynamic line length. Since annotation groups and labels are (relatively) recent developments, they may not be that functional as yet.

    It makes sense that the label would assume the settings of the text style as defined in the active file, if the style has the same name. Other text behaves the same way, last I checked. If you aren't using standard text styles (or if they keep changing from one drawing to the next) it may be worth defining special text styles used just for your labels. that way they will be unaffected by local variations.

    I'm just learning this myself, so hopefully someone with deeper knowledge will be along with more information.

    MaryB

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  • i havent been creating them in the .cel files, i just been creating them in my working file with a frame and adding them into a new .cel file based on the project im working on. the frame is need to find the center of the cell in order to have dimension arrow connect to the delimit line. this way has been working for me but in my dimension styles i had to remove the in line leader. the leaders have been too big or not parallel so i just been easier to add the in line leader to the cell and have a dimension style with no leader 

  • I haven't had any luck with dynamically adjusting the line width based on the text width. I am going to place a service request for that. I do not know how it works but if multiple people place same service request, does it get more importance? 

    For justification I am using mirror tool to flip the text and that worked for me. At least for time being. 

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