I am looking to add pipe types and sizes to the "Drainage and Utilities" list? I can find all kinds of Feature Definitions, Feature Symbologies, but can not find where the actual sizes and type of pipe definitions are stored. I can see the nodes are stored in the cells and linked by element templates but not the conduits, at least not the size and shape only the color and symbology is stored in the element templates. It appears the size and shape of conduits are changed by selecting a "Description" pull down from the conduit place link... dialog. Where does that pull down description list get stored and edited.
Mike:
That information is stored in the Conduit Catalog. You can access it through merely typing in Conduit Catalog in the Search Ribbon. The more manual method is to access it through the dropdown Drainage and Utilities> Components>Catalog>Conduit Catalog. You will notice that this area also contains the Inlet Catalog, Gutter Catalog, Culvert Inlet Coefficients, etc. The software uses a wide variety of data, and most of it can be created/ modified within one of these catalogs. Keep in mind that the "Label" portion of the catalog is the size listed when determining a conduit size when placing a conduit. This label may also be used- and frequently is- when assigning an annotation to a conduit.
Mark
Answer Verified By: Mike Longstreet
Mike,
To add on to what Mark mentioned, the conduit sizes are in fact stored in the conduit catalog. BUT, this conduit catalog is defined in the SUDA seed file. There is a workspace variable defining this file/location.
Marc
Sounds good the conduit sizes are in the "Conduit Catalog" and there are "Gutter, Inlet, and other component catalogs available. These Catalogs should be modified in the SUDA seed file if they are to be available for across the workspace.
Thanks.
Mike LongstreetVermont Agency of TransportationCivil Engineering Technical SupportVTCAD Help
FYI
The SUDA tools do not automatically change the 3D model when different size pipes are used and if you have many inlet standards to address vault sizes, curb opening sizes and materials/construction methods (precast, cast in place, etc.) you should not create separate features for each. There is a similar disconnect between the 3D model and what the software uses for computations. We have features for curb openings to the left or right of the vault but the software cannot really use them all. We anticipate eliminating more then 75% of the drainage features initially created, since they cannot really be used as the software currently functions.
I may be over simplifying this explanation, but I want to help others use their development resources wisely.
Charles (Chuck) Rheault CADD Manager
MDOT State Highway Administration Maryland DOT - State Highway Administration User Communities Page
I opened up the delivered "Drainage and Utilities Features Annotations Imperial.dgnlib" it does not contain the Conduit Catalog it links to the catalog. All the catalogs seem to be stored in .xml files in the workspace. "C:\ProgramData\Bentley\SUDA\10\Libraries\Conduits Library.xml". I am using the Training workspace for v10.10 but it still point to the v10 suda Conduits Library.xml file. There is a suda Conduits Library.xml file in "C:\ProgramData\Bentley\SUDA\10.10\Libraries\Conduits Library.xml".
I did remove the v10 Conduit Library.xml and add the v10.10 Conduit Library.xml. Not really sure if this is recommended. But since i an running the new version it would seem the new Conduit Library.xml would be appropriate. The two are different. Not sure how different there is a folder structure in one and a flat list in the v10.10 version. The v10.10 file is smaller.
It also seems that removing any unused library Catalogs would speed up the SUE loading. For example the Conduits Library - Metric.xml may not be needed in a non metric workspace. I also wonder how all this works with a Standard workspace stored on a network share while the "Engineering Library" catalog is on the C drive. That may be why it does not update as CADDCOP noted.