21796 - Topo.dgn
I can't for the life of me get the rules turned off to edit this terrain. If anyone else can get it to work can tell me the steps? I must just be hitting the wrong order.
Thanks
Hey Lucas: Grzegorz is correct, assuming that you want to directly edit triangles. I would suggest that you are not well served in doing so however. Consider this:
Yeah, I know. Wait until the survey is 100% then edit. But when is the last time you had a project that was ever "finished"? All to often we are continuing to add survey data right up to and sometimes during construction.
It is far better in the rules based world of OpenRoads to edit rules instead. Consider the most common need for a surveyor to edit the terrain model (remove triangles from the concave corners.) Here's what you do:
Robert Garrett Senior Consultant
www.envisioncad.com
In this instance I needed to swap a line. See attached pic. Will it make or break this survey? Absolutely not. Most of the time I use it to swap lines, create points that were missed in the field, but I'm 99% sure I know what is there, to "smooth" out the suvey, missed flow line. Also to delete slivers around the edge causing goofy contour lines.
Your correct survey's don't every get done, just closer.
So, the solution to swap triangles without disabling the rules is just draw a short smartline similar to the red line in your image and add this as a breakline.
Sounds good. Going from the old Geopak and Civil3d the terrain was not locked down like that. The rules were used during creation of the surface. Then any edits could be made.
The same process can be used to apply a boundary to the DTM.
Deactivate surface, trim triangles, create graphic boundary, unlock surface, rebuild surface from survey data, apply boundary......
Sounds like a lot of steps but much better in the long term not having the surface deactivated.
That is a poor work flow. Missed a couple, whoops do it again. More survey data. Do it all again.
Workflow in civil3d. Download data, edit surface as needed. Pickup survey data, rinse and repeat as needed.
It's a much better workflow but as with a lot of workflows the designers of the program don't use it in practice. They just move on.
The downloading of survey data should be to download the points and breaklines and apply the rules, then get out of the way and let me edit and do my job. If pickup survey is downloaded then apply the rules when I download that, then get out of the way and let me do my job.