With regards to the deprecation of SS 10 products, we completely understand the need to embrace the connected environment and we as a business have already done that and are moving forward with any new projects on that platform. What the SS 10 deprecation does not address is the scores of projects across the country that were started in legacy SS10 software several years ago and will continue to be completed using legacy software, because it would simply be way too expensive and time consuming to upgrade existing projects to the connected plaform. (For instance upgrading a Geopak created project to an Open Roads project). Right now, I am thinking of a rather long & complex urban project that we are doing for our state DOT. While the Phase I is complete, Phase II will be completed in 5 different segments (plan sets) over the course of the next several years. This is due to the availability of programmed funding. These plan sets will continue to be produced using legacy (Geopak SS10) software. I can imagine that this same scenario will be playing out across the country and globe for many DOT's & users for years to come. Are we really going to lose support & security updates for software that will be widely used for the next several years??? I completely understand the need to move into the future (as stated, we already have), but this announcement does NOT reflect the fact that we as an industry are just not there yet.
I completely agree. As a consultant, my company is contractually obligated to design products using the software mandated by our clients. TxDOT is our biggest client, and Bentley's as well. If they aren't ready to upgrade, we literally can't upgrade ourselves.
Similar to what Jeff described, even if TxDOT officially made the switch today, legacy projects spanning multiple years would still be completed using SS10. There needs to be a lot of overlapping support for SS10 and ORD to cover this scenario.
If Bentley really wants to speed up the adoption rate for ORD, they need to raise awareness with DOT's and municipalities rather than applying IT policies that throw consultants into turmoil. The current messaging from Bentley comes across as pushy, pointless, and immature.
We (MD DOT) are still fully operational in the Ss10 Platform. In the past, we have had entire offices running versions which were off support due to being unable to migrate until some custom add-on was recompiled. This has never proved to be a stumbling block and we are going to assume that we can continue using Ss10 even though it is coming off of support. We actually have some users having to use Ss2 because some application does not function 100% properly in Ss10. So as of right now, even the SELECT Server Licensing is still operational.
Our CONNECT Workspace still needs a lot of work before we can implement is as a full design platform. And our resources have been reduced so it is not even one of our higher priorities for now.
Charles (Chuck) Rheault CADD Manager
MDOT State Highway Administration
We still have a project that will be active for a couple of years being designed using InRoads/Power InRoads SS2. Contact Bentley and they can work with you regarding licensing for deprecated products.
Microstation CONNECT 10.17.00.209
ORD CONNECT 2021 R1 10.10.1.3
Microstation v8i SS 10 08.11.09.919
Power InRoads v8i 08.11.09.615
We are aware that if necessary, we can request licenses even after the SELECT (license) Server is turns off, but are concerned with the cost impacts to our consultants, if they have to tie up licenses in a Node Locked seat. So we are trying to work as though Ss2 is not available where absolutely possible.
Is there a link to a recent public message/ post? This is all I could find... Desktop Applications Support Policy (bentley.com) I assume something was sent primarily to system admins.
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