At some point in a project the work needs to be reviewed. However, since not everyone is up to speed with ORD from knowing how to use the program to even *having* the program brings us to this question:
How does the reviewer review an ORD file if they don't have ORD?
So my first question is: Does Bentley have a viewer that view an ORD (or an ORS, because that's gonna be next) file?
The next option for consideration is how to export a file into some format that's at least reviewable, if not necessarily perfect. This morning we learned how to export an ORD to v7 (we're still using Power Survey SS2 per, as I understand it...its all way before my time, PennDOT.), and we figured out how to export the terrain model into a dtm file. As yet I haven't figured out how to export the survey data into a comma-delimited text file that we can import into the rest of the file. Before you ask I think the points in the ORD have been or will be edited in some fashion that just using the original points file isn't practical. And just to know how to do it, which, as of this writing isn't obvious how it's done.
Finally, the last and, I guess the easiest option: Find some software that allows the reviewer to access your machine and, in essence, look over your shoulder while you pan and zoom around the drawing making whatever edits they think necessary in real time.
Hopefully this is helpful for others.
Thanks!
I'm still not understanding why you need to export the survey data? What is "import into the rest of the file"? The normal workflow is to import, check, correct any major mistakes in the csv, reimport, repeat until it's really good, then make any fixes in the dgn. Same workflow for Civil 3d as well. Done.
Thanks for taking the time to respond, Lucas! Really appreciate it!
The reviewer does not have ORD so can't access the file to review it. The exporting the points file was part of the build process to creatine a file that the review *can* open, and, in theory, review. when you export an ORD file using the v7 option, the survey data - i.e. points data - doesn't come along. So we were trying to find a way export the survey data to a text file. Then we'd import that into the SS2 drawing to complete the build of an SS2 version of the ORD file. Now the reviewer can access the drawing to review it.
Is it a cumbersome way to do this? Sure, but there isn't another good option as we're all trying to come up to speed with a brand new software that not everybody has access to. Or knows how to use.
Does that make senses?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd2H3l1hyGs&t=1063s
I've not watched all the video above. I'm wondering if you could find a way to annotate all your points with a generic label and how it would export to v7? It may be worth a try. But you are correct ORD handles the visualization/printing of survey points/cogo points poorly (much better in Civil 3d).
Thank you, Lucas! I'll give it a look!
Since like Civil 3D, ORD has evolved to be 'feature driven" I'm guessing the survey data is buried somewhere, yet if you can find it, should be able to pull it out to either export it, or, more importantly, have it be able to be printed out for say a check set rather than a final.
Try this. In the survey tab, highlight all point features, right click and choose details. In the attached pic if you have all lines highlighted and right click the green area there are few export options, choose report on selected items. This brings up a report, in there right click in the report and you can export to excel. But if you right click in the box with the red around it, you can export to csv, open in excel and delete out the columns not needed. Bring this csv into v7. Two ways to get there.
Best I can come up with on short notice.
Don't waste your time turning off columns in ORD, it's an all or nothing deal, do that in excel.
If you use the SurveyPointsTable.xsl and export this to excel, you'll get just PNEZD format. You won't have much if any cleanup in excel.