Unable to merge terrain model and roadway corridor surface

I am looking for the correct method to merge the terrain and the corridor surface.
This is what I see in the cross section...

Thank you.

Jon Lund
YVC PT Instructor
ENGR 118
ENGR 160
  • What software, and what version are you using?

    While I do not know for certain (have not done a lot of design with ORD) I believe you can create a Clipped Terrain from your existing ground that has the area within your corridor limits removed. You may then be able to attach that for your cross sections.

    Hopefully someone with more experience than I can better assist you.

    MaryB

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  • Ok

    As Mary B says what software are you using I will assume ORD...   so forgive me if I am wrong.  I use ORD and the version I use is stated below.

    So in ORD we have a command under the terrain ribbon,, additional methods create a terrain from design meshes. This method way better than alternative surfaces via a template as per InRoads as it picks up your civil cells. So run that command. Then under the same pull down run create complex terrain use your active DTM as primary DTM and your new terrain as the merge DTM.

    That should sort you out I hope!

    By the way I put the corridor terrain in a new file as if you place it in the corridor file that will slow your corridor processing speed down a great deal.. Not a good idea that one...

    I hope this helps.

    Regards

    Ross


  • Hi, Ross and Mary.

    I am using ORD CE 2021 Release 1.

    I created my terrain model by running a simple template along a horizontal and vertical alignment.
    I then used the Create Terrain Model from Design Meshs to obtain the "existing" terrain model.
    I have it in a reference file with the same Geo Coordinate System and it is set to active.

    I then built a new horizontal and vertical set of alignments over the existing terrain model.
    I then built a new corridor using a default divided highway asphalt template to create a roadway corridor. However, the seven components (four shoulders, two sets of lanes and median) were not a surface or terrain model. I wasn't getting the roadway corridor surface to show up in the dialog for creating a complex terrain model, either. So...

    I proceeded to create individual proposed terrain models of the seven components but instead I got a complex terrain model of the existing terrain with the roadway terrain. It seems to have imported the referenced terrain into this new file.

    It appears that I am getting what I had before...if it is a cut the existing terrain hangs above the roadway and in a fill the roadway appears to catch the existing terrain model.

    You probably don't want the files but here are some screenshots:
    3D DRIVE THROUGH:


    SHEET MODEL @ STA. 124+00

    XSEC MODEL @ STA. 132+00.00


    Could the default template "cut" end conditions be undefined so it doesn't seek the existing surface?

    Thank you, both, for trying to help this novice.
    Jon

  • If you are using OpenRoad Connect Edition, you can select what you need to obtain when processing corridors creating new feature definitions, and selecting different display settings. You can obtain Top Mesh, Bottom Mesh, Components, Linear Features, include or not Null Point Lines, Major Contours, Minor Contours, or any combination of them. If you create a Feature definition for a corridor named "Top Mesh" and set only Top Mesh in display settings, you will obtain the Top Mesh, after that you can create a terrain model from elements selecting the top Mesh as break lines, this step can be done creating a new file with a 3d seed, attaching the 3d model containing the top mesh; once you have your terrain model, you can create another file with a 3d model, then you attach the Existing groud model and the top mesh model and create your complex terrain.