Extra 3D models created

Has anyone else encountered this error/bug or has any idea why multiple 3D models are automatically getting created/attached to a file even though one already exists? I am placing a 3D civil cell with geometry points set to use the active terrain elevation. Default-3D was created when I made a terrain active, but as soon as a I try placing the civil cell, it generates Default-3D-1 and Default-3D-2 which are unable to be deleted...

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  • It appears your civil-cells may be causing a recircular reference and confusing the 2D/3D dependency made automatically by the software. Is this a civil cell you've made and have seen work elsewhere?  Make sure you're snapping to a 2D element within a 2D view (those 2D elements may or may not need an active profile depending on how the civil cell was made.  Also check that the terrain you set active is a 3D only file and attached correctly to the 3D model of your dgn.  Sometimes those get switched and 3D gets attached to 2D mistakenly.  

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  • Hi, I did make the civil cell myself and it works as intended, just creates 3D models too when placed. Wouldn't a circular reference give an error or make it not able to be created? I select centerlines that have profiles for two of the eight CC references with Default-3D turned off so they are the 2D components, and I am not using those profiles for the cell - just the terrain to set the elevation of points. The points are the only 3D components of the cell. The terrain I attached is a 3D file but as I'm working in 2D has its 3D model attached to Default-3D. I don't think I should be working in 3D but maybe I'll try that...

    Does anyone know how a 3D model can be removed?

     Kristina Yuen, PE
    ORD 2021 Release 2

  • The way I remember civil-cells working, when created, whenever construction lines containing an active profile gets used, those same lines will look for an active profile in those steps (e.g. EOP, BSW, etc).  When attempting to use said civil-cell, select those elements and their active profiles will be used.  Also, points may not be as useful in civil-cells as lines.  As problematic as civil-cells have been traditionally, I'd guess using points in those steps may be causing the issue.  Only chance in removing the 3D-Models being created is to remove any associated data tied to those.  Try detaching the surfaces and reattach once they've been removed.  Use the Explorer dialog for any data possibly tied yet not visible (may be easier to see any associated points).  There's also a keyin "Civil Display Browser" that may reveal issues... using toggles along the top of that dialog. 

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  • The way I remember civil-cells working, when created, whenever construction lines containing an active profile gets used, those same lines will look for an active profile in those steps (e.g. EOP, BSW, etc).  When attempting to use said civil-cell, select those elements and their active profiles will be used.  Also, points may not be as useful in civil-cells as lines.  As problematic as civil-cells have been traditionally, I'd guess using points in those steps may be causing the issue.  Only chance in removing the 3D-Models being created is to remove any associated data tied to those.  Try detaching the surfaces and reattach once they've been removed.  Use the Explorer dialog for any data possibly tied yet not visible (may be easier to see any associated points).  There's also a keyin "Civil Display Browser" that may reveal issues... using toggles along the top of that dialog. 

    ORD 2021 R1 (10.10), 2022 R1 (10.11.00.115), 2022 R3 (10.12.02.04) | MS 10.16

     Bentley Accredited Road Designer Bentley Accredited Road Modeler

     

      colliersengineering.com 

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