[2021 R1] Utility Properties not available in drawing model for profiles

Unfortunately, Synch Drawing has no effect since the DU elements are in a reference file.

While in the file containing the DU elements, the problem with the Drawing model was solved by activating the reference which then allowed me to attach the Item Types to the DU elements in the profile.  Alternatively, I could attach the Item Types in the profile model itself, but it seems to work better to do it after the drawing model for the profile has been created.

I've got everything working except for when the DU information is referenced to another file, including being projected to a roadway profile.  I submitted an SR and was told that this has to do with the "single source of truth" issue not being resolved for 2021 R1 and that this was fixed in 2022 R1.

Robert (and Mark Plum via phone) - thanks for all the great info and advice.

Sounds like synch issues which are ever present seems like.  Try Synchronize Graphics command. Tools tab of ribbon.

Hi Robert,

Although I see the Item Type properties for drainage elements in the active file, when selecting drainage elements in a referenced file, the Item Type properties are missing.  The Item Types are there, but the property values are blank.  Any idea what could be causing this?  I'm working in a design model, not a drawing model.

Also, when in a drawing model for a profile in that same file which contains the drainage (not a reference) the Item Types are not there at all.  If I attempt to attached Item Types to the drainage in the profile drawing model, I get the message: "Element in reference that is not currently active."

Thank you Robert.  This is very helpful.

1. I find that they work well in various DOTs  However, the bug you noted make sense to me now. I did have problems with item types for pipes. It didn’t register immediately as a bug because I encountered it while developing a training dataset and the pipes predated the item types so I assumed that was the problem.  The solution is the same though. Attach the item types afterwards.
2. I do not have to manually attach item types ever except for the above bug and for dgn files which predate the item types. AND…projected profiles.  Then as you noted, I attach them after projection.  For the current client, this only affects pipes since those are the only labels dependent on item type
3. Once upon a time this was Bentley’s plan.  About two versions ago, this behavior was turned off by default.  You’ll need a cfg variable to enable.  Using this method comes with very high risk however because it will duplicate the DU database all over the place inevitably leading to synchronization or corruption issues.