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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/products/road___site_design/f/geopak-inroads-mx-openroads-forum/237377/i-hate-this-software-so-bad</link><description>Here am I just venting because I have nothing else to do with my life but stay late, not creating value for my clients or solving issues that matter but trying to get this disaster of software to work. The number one reason why I want to quit engineering</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/767656?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2023 08:47:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:03cab1c1-bcd5-45ce-a9cb-41da0bc00992</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Mark,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It all comes down to the deliverables - if you are purely providing construction models and only require 3d strings, MX is much faster without a doubt. If your market requires 3d BIM/Digital Engineering deliverables and/or your other disciplines work in 3d and you have 3d coordination and clash detection workflows then the move to ORD is inevitable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Things naturally take longer because of all the additional detail the design incorporates, eg.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:240px;max-width:320px;" alt=" " src="/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/2821.Picture1.jpg" data-uw-rm-ima="un" /&gt;&lt;img style="max-height:240px;max-width:320px;" src="/resized-image/__size/640x480/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/pastedimage1685349854268v1.png" alt=" " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The real question is, is this the direction your market is going and will you need to make the move eventually? The one thing we can say moving in this direction is there are tangible savings during construction because of the visibility of issues that were traditionally missed during the design phase because of this new visualised and detailed way of working, however, this is something hard to communicate in the early days.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/767583?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2023 00:51:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:58a24adc-d356-4a5a-ad01-d4f119bbda94</guid><dc:creator>Nivas Dhavala</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s not only the time Mark, the other items&amp;nbsp;are&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The confidence levels of the designer in terms of the accuracy of final outputs from the 3D model.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Model transition and traceability from concept to IFC.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a situation when&amp;nbsp;designers change in the middle of the project it is near impossible to get the transfer of knowledge and documentation. You only get what you see on the screen. There are so many variables that you cannot track back. In this situation, the cost escalates enormously.&amp;nbsp;Despite having documentation and well-written procedures. The accountability of the designers is completely gone as they cannot own and understand others&amp;#39; work.&amp;nbsp;At times&amp;nbsp;it is easy to restart.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3D graphics are good to look at and integrate all disciplines it is near impossible to check all design elements&amp;nbsp;such as&amp;nbsp;instantaneous cross falls, curve widening, rotation of superelevation etc.,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess someone is laughing and thinking at this and saying, MX guys have a winge, but I still cannot see design software that can do the job as it was.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/766992?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 01:51:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:04d723e6-b63b-46e0-ab28-f46a300505e6</guid><dc:creator>Mark Gardiner</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I hope you are recording all your time against your projects.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our companies and our clients need to know how long design/modelling is taking.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;At the moment I think there is a lot of disbelief that it is as slow as it is and that it must just a &amp;quot;training&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;up skilling&amp;quot; issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think any company/client has sat down and done a proper cost analysis of Open Roads Designer vs our legacy software.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I come from using MX where we used it in a fully parametric way, via design scripts (input files), that we chose when to run.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are finding to just get a comparable model to what we used to get is around 2.5 to 3 times as long, depending upon what software you used to use, and how you used it. .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/762850?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 17:28:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:00debdbc-d7fa-4e01-ac6b-bd5bfedda4f1</guid><dc:creator>Lucas Hicks</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Civil 3d is way better at site design, creating cogo points, and visualizing cogo points, it&amp;#39;s not even close.&amp;nbsp; Like with ORD it has to be set up correctly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ORD is geared for highway design because of all the DOT&amp;#39;s.&amp;nbsp; C3D can do these as well.&amp;nbsp; But it&amp;#39;s much better for small local roads/site design.&amp;nbsp; And for staking out/creating points ORD is a complete joke.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/762811?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 13:34:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:4089e43a-1387-4c59-9494-3571a0f5d9d3</guid><dc:creator>Ken Bagnall</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;To be fair I rather suffer any difficulties or shortcomings with ORD than use C3D which from my experience is awful. Slow, manual, limited, it&amp;#39;s like going back in time from MX, not forward! We use AutoCAD for drawing production though so only have some issues on the annotation side.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/762117?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 00:56:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:34141975-175f-4970-897d-0c3c544d5914</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Todd,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Put these details up into a new post and im sure some one from this community can help.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/762115?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2023 21:04:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:75718727-2a89-470f-bcd5-8a9a37c45e86</guid><dc:creator>Todd Von Behren</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m sure it is me doing something wrong.&amp;nbsp; The template constructs 2:1 or 4:1 fill slopes like it should, but I need to add on a V ditch to the 4:1 and a flat bottom ditch to the 2:1 with a 10&amp;#39; berm (12:1).&amp;nbsp; I got the 4:1 to work with an end condition exception (telling it to go to the ditch profile elevation via a point control and then add a backslope) The 2:1 with berm&amp;nbsp;partial works with template modification by adding in a new slope with ditch and using end conditions.&amp;nbsp; I worked backwards on the end condition and set the dummy ditch points to DNC, and a point control to hit my ditch profile.&amp;nbsp; I need a picture to show this, but the dummy ditch is being added in the model, and the disturbed limits shown on the plan reflects the limits of the dummy ditch.&amp;nbsp; It doesn&amp;#39;t show up in the dynamic cross section view, but it does show up it I select Edit Station from the dynamic cross section view.&amp;nbsp; Thanks.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/762084?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2023 04:00:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:77fa78db-d436-4d98-a678-6aca9ef82c21</guid><dc:creator>Mark Plum</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Look, this software has many, many issues. Annotations are certainly lacking with consistency especially. However, the modeling capabilities are certainly superior to anything else on the market and are incredibly consistent. If one is having issues in modeling- I agree with Mark- something that you are doing is amiss.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just my 2 pennies (probably not worth a damn thing.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mark&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/762083?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2023 03:52:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:dc2263f2-f9c5-4ec8-8533-374f4f0e7880</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;If it is taking you 3 days you may need to reassess how you are doing it ;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/762078?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2023 02:37:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:26de250c-e274-43f8-b313-ea782e3982f2</guid><dc:creator>Todd Von Behren</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I feel your pain.&amp;nbsp; Three days&amp;nbsp;trying to create a ditch that goes from V to FB to FB with berm in a hundred feet and have got nowhere. I want to quit and retire and live in poverty at 52.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/741388?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2022 00:56:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:69a37dda-865c-4651-9875-ddc440a8cfe1</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Just for reference - the issues mentioned in the original post has nothing to do with ORD Drawing production. It is something to do with legacy Microstation tags in a generic CAD DGN.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/741378?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2022 22:09:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:88fd3fe5-b68f-4cde-a52b-9f8c2f43827a</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum/189565/tags-placed-as-cells-rotating"&gt;Tags placed as cells rotating - OpenBuildings | AECOsim | Speedikon | Forum - OpenBuildings | AECOsim | Speedikon - Bentley Communities&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Based on this post, it may have something to do with the Tags originally being created in v8i?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OR&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Tag text has an element Template including a &amp;quot;TitleBlk-RW&amp;quot; cell. This cell may include some settings affecting text rotation? Is there a reason it needs to use this Element Template. Try using one without the cell and see if that helps.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img alt=" " src="/resized-image/__size/320x240/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/pastedimage1668118348927v1.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/741375?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2022 22:00:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:0605e71e-f346-4d47-94d1-48cd07ad0890</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Isaac,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had a look at this and the text that you are seeing rotating are Tag elements. I haven&amp;#39;t used these for a very long time so not too sure what could be causing the rotation (it doesnt happen for me). Needless to say, this is something down to basic Microstation CAD functionality (it doesnt have anything to do with ORD plan production or the Civil side of things),&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps posting this same issue in the Microstation forum may get a solution faster?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/741374?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2022 21:55:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:946dfc88-65f2-49e7-bb63-4a7177f81e88</guid><dc:creator>Matt Murphy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Totally agree. One of the worst parts to me too is, by the time you get to plan production, your files have so many references, models, dependencies, etc. that increase processing time. In plan production I constantly need to switch between many sheet drawings to make edits. InRoads it was instant, now it can take up to 30 seconds to open a drawing. That adds up. And even within the drawings, just not nearly as&amp;nbsp;snappy as InRoads. So frustrating.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/741373?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2022 21:55:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:394d76b1-91ff-44c3-9be0-7958cae39f5b</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Remember that the rest of the world have already started moving that way. I appreciate that a lot of the focus here is requirements for the US DOTs, but those limitations don&amp;#39;t exist for the dozens of other markets already mandated with Digitial Engineering delivery.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/741372?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2022 21:51:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:a82359bb-44dd-4778-8fd4-2e6f141c5e0c</guid><dc:creator>MaryB</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Most of my clients are state DOTs, and not likely to shift over to model-based submissions for a decade or more. Even then, the contractors are going to want plan sheets (at least around here in flyover country). The modeling has a lot of potential, but we are probably going to need to produce actual plan sets for the rest of my career. Plans production has always been a large part of our budgets, and the plans production capabilities of ORD are still not reliable enough to count on, from everything I have seen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heck, how many versions in were we before ORD was able to produce end-area volumes for earthwork?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/741356?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2022 20:08:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:7c14cf27-c0e4-4dbc-af97-24b69d2c2aac</guid><dc:creator>Isaac Lopez</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;YES&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/741140?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2022 22:19:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:bdb74bf0-2dc5-4c40-b935-65e40f80b31e</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Isaac,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This looks to be standard Microstation DGN data, no ORD annotation or anything - is that right?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/741095?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2022 16:50:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:3cb5f43a-3d78-4fcf-836e-1da2d15c826b</guid><dc:creator>Clint Young</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;You must have selective hearing syndrome...there isn&amp;#39;t a shortage of bugs/issues being discussed on this forum.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/741090?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2022 16:41:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:06b30edd-9df3-4622-8221-bf3f2ef55343</guid><dc:creator>Matt Bombace</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Well said, Mark.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/740795?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 14:15:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:6a8e6259-faad-4593-acde-ef9d201c9b44</guid><dc:creator>Isaac Lopez</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/7633.14412_5F00_S_2D00_0209_2800_35_2900_10_5F00_RWBorder.dgn"&gt;communities.bentley.com/.../7633.14412_5F00_S_2D00_0209_2800_35_2900_10_5F00_RWBorder.dgn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here you go thanks for your help&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/739028?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2022 22:48:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:7d487b03-adf1-43ef-baeb-704d04e482a3</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Any chance you could share a sample here so we can have a look and see how its set up?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/739027?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2022 22:47:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b1d2d441-96c0-4d36-ad96-7c60f0b1d85e</guid><dc:creator>Mark Shamoun</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I find it interesting that not one actual bug has been mentioned yet (except that it works differently to what i used before). There definitely are issues to be resolved, but this sounds very similar to the backlash when CONNECT introduced a ribbon and users had to change how they work...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/739009?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2022 20:30:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:07c21093-cbb2-4222-978d-39b4c9f3c26d</guid><dc:creator>Nivas Dhavala</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Totally agree with Isaac. Geometric design use to be very exiting and interesting and we developed accurate and productive outputs using MX. It is not the case and all the points that Isaac mentioned are valid, presents the daily status of todays designers.&lt;br /&gt;Consulting industry need to re think their strategy...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: I hate this software so bad</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/739003?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2022 20:02:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b38fbf51-2876-427d-a32d-27e7f18acb38</guid><dc:creator>Isaac Lopez</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Can you please expand on this, if this can help us out it would be great now all my documents are having the same issue.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks in advance&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ORD 10.10.21.4&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PW 10.0.3.298&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>