I am working open roads drainage and utilities for a road project. The circles are manholes and the squares are catch basins.
The system on the road makes the system looped and if the model is run it shows an error. Is there a way to solve it as a gravity network where a loop is created
I'm trying to figure out where this water all goes?It may not be possible to model a system that doesn't have an outfall. But there are people here with more experience than I. I'm sure they will have better ideas.
MaryB
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Assuming you are using the default licence, which lets you use the Gradually Varied Flow solver (abbreviated to "GVF-Rational" in the software) then loops and diversions represent a special case. This is because the normal premise of System Time doesn't apply when you have a loop or diversion, which occurs when you have two conduits that carry flow out of a node. In this case, the time taken for flow to travel down each conduit will be different, and this goes against the principles of the Rational Method, where there is a single System Time at each node.
However, you can still solve this system - in two ways:
In reality, Control Structures such as a weir will only operate when the depth in the upstream node (the HGL) reaches a certain elevation, and the operation of an orifice also depends on the upstream head. So if you want to model these types of situations, then the software needs to know how flow varies over time, which is what using the Explicit (SWMM Solvers) technique offers you.
In either case, you will need an outfall, and I think that's in the top left of your picture. Looking at your picture, you might need a second outfall, unless the flow direction arrow on one of the conduits (the vertical one that feeds the manhole that connects to the outfall) is wrong.
Here's some links that may help:
Modeling a flow split (diversion) with the SewerCAD or StormCAD numerical solver - OpenFlows | Water Infrastructure Wiki - OpenFlows | Water Infrastructure - Bentley Communities
Using Start and Stop Control Structures for conduits and channels - OpenFlows | Water Infrastructure Wiki - OpenFlows | Water Infrastructure - Bentley Communities