[ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

caddcop — Mon, 01 May 2023 22:31:15 GMT

I believe there is a variable that allows you to migrate a file from an earlier version of Power InRoads. To initially migrate our Power InRoads settings to ORD, you start with an Ss4 or Ss10 file with some civil feature definitions in it. So I know there is a way.

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

Peter VALLIERES — Mon, 01 May 2023 19:14:47 GMT

It seems that if the file was created with Power InRoads, regardless if there is any civil data inside of it, ORD will automatically open the file in read-only mode (saying that it cannot read the data)

However, if you open the same file in MSCE, then you can manipulate the file as normal, go figure.

Civil tools don't seem to do much good in upgrading, I have never managed to make it work, I might be doing things wrong though..,

I do feel your grief about the workaround, especially knowing that you can open the file in MSCE without any issues.

I feel that if Bentley gave us the option to remove all prior version civil related data from the V8i DGN and allow us to SAVE AS ORD format, most of our problems would be solved. Heck, if you can merge the "read-only" file into a new file, I tend to think it could be implemented...

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

Stephen Kareiva — Mon, 01 May 2023 18:12:54 GMT

Hey, Mr. Chuck & Peter.

Unfortunately these files are 'created last week, randomly read only this week'. I never followed up with the Help to find out the config. variable that would show the warning Jing posted.

Our MS_READONLY is undefined. I don't believe that was ever the cause of this issue.

But I can say for sure that in most cases there wasn't any civil data in the file. Or at least there shouldn't have been. We're not using ORD for much, if any, design. Just an expensive seat of MicroStation to do drafting. Migration from InRoads hasn't gone well for us...

As with most things from Bentley, a workaround (which I hate) of creating a new file and merging in the 'read only' file keeps the user working.

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

caddcop — Mon, 01 May 2023 17:56:31 GMT

I also believe there is a variable that when defined will affect how older versions can be opened, which is what I was referring to. It is related to the need to upgrade the file to a newer version if it was created in a older Civil Schema.

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

Peter VALLIERES — Mon, 01 May 2023 16:51:48 GMT

FYI: The read-only variable is: MS_READONLY. If set to 1, files will always be Read-Only.

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

caddcop — Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:13:33 GMT

I believe there is a variable that can be defined to change this behavior. Look through the help documents.

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

Stephen Kareiva — Thu, 05 Jan 2023 14:14:54 GMT

You have no idea...

To answer your question; Yes, we do have different configs for both. But are working on getting them consolidated. The system here is a mess.

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

Stephen Kareiva — Thu, 05 Jan 2023 14:12:44 GMT

We don't see this message when opening the file. It certainly would have given me a clue as to what was going on before posting.

I wouldn't have thought there was any civil data in it, but I've been surprised before.

Thank you both for the help, input and directions! I'll give it a try and see what that does.

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

Mark Plum — Thu, 05 Jan 2023 01:04:32 GMT

Folks:

I did not get a chance to actually look at this file until now, but I have to agree with Jing Jing. I am getting the same message. I have to state, however, that I never perceived that this issue was caused in this manner. Jing Jing's steps here will solve you issue, Stephen!

Jing Jing for the win!

Best Regards,

Mark

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

Jing Jing — Thu, 05 Jan 2023 00:51:32 GMT

Just quick checked your attached file under OpenRoads 2021 R2. It seems that the DGN file is created from V8i format.

You can try to use Civil File Manager to upgrade them.

Then file will be editable.

Hope it helps.

RE: [ORD CE 2021 R2 U10] ORD randomly chooses to open files read only

Mark Plum — Wed, 04 Jan 2023 21:10:05 GMT

Stephen:

I have NEVER had this happen to me or anyone of our staff utilizing any version of OpenRoads Designer, and I have no idea as to why this issue is happening to you. The only thing that I can think of is some manner of custom configuration. Do you have different configuration files or locations for MicroStation and OpenRoads? The "random" issue which you describe is particularly troubling...

Mark