civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Christian Orr — Thu, 10 Aug 2023 20:32:39 GMT

Fixed my issue. My IT company accidentally installed the config file for 10.10 into my 10.12

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Christian Orr — Thu, 10 Aug 2023 14:24:18 GMT

All my work sets now have this issue. Is it a preference issue?

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Christian Orr — Thu, 10 Aug 2023 13:51:25 GMT

working in 10.12 and my civil labeler tool is having that same issue.

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Mark Plum — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:04:08 GMT

Excellent, Shawn, and thanks so much for the additional efforts!

Mark

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Shawn Cooke — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 19:59:41 GMT

Placing this link here for further information on this 10.11 Civil Labeler change. I knew I saw it somewhere! Chuck has another Civil Labeler video for 10.10 (xml version) on the Bentley's ORD Youtube posted just 6 months ago!

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Mark Plum — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 19:34:17 GMT

Shawn:

Yes...

_CIVIL_STANDARDS_IMPORTEXPORT = 1

I have been so busy that I completely forgot about this one!

Thanks!

Mark

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Shawn Cooke — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 19:18:15 GMT

[quote userid="437496" url="~/products/road___site_design/f/geopak-inroads-mx-openroads-forum/242647/civil-labler-wont-load-it-flashes-for-second-and-turns-white/756801"]One would not have to "re-write" anything[/quote]

Isn't there a config change that needs to be added to enable that "import" right click menu item? That Import option doesn't appear to be available by default.

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Mark Plum — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 18:51:41 GMT

Folks:

One would not have to "re-write" anything at all as regards labeler in situ if one has access to the Civil Labeler XML file. You can import this file into the 10.11 Label Definitions directory in ORD explorer. It would be preferable to do this in a WorkSpace defined dgnlib- specifically the Labeler dgnlib (assuming that this "legacy" dgnlib exists)- but you could import it into any dgn you would like as well. Just be aware that the labels/ label definitions would only exist in that dgn and would not be accessible from others. On the other hand, it is a pretty simple thing to just import them into any dgn which may have use of them.

Best Regards,

Mark

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Shawn Cooke — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 16:50:35 GMT

The Civil Labeler you're seeing in 10.11 is designed to use a dgnlib file for holding its settings and content. In 10.10 that tool uses an XML file you see in your configuration. Unless NYSDOT has a 10.11 workspace, you'll have trouble getting that tool working on their 10.10 workspace. There's a remote chance you could get someone to rewrite their Civil Labeler standards and workspace to work with 10.11, but hardly worth the effort when 10.10 can be installed on the same system as 10.11.

EDIT:

[quote userid="2255" url="~/products/road___site_design/f/geopak-inroads-mx-openroads-forum/242647/civil-labler-wont-load-it-flashes-for-second-and-turns-white/756785"]ORD out of the box setting same results[/quote]

This is likely caused by your company standards and custom workspace designed or copied from 10.10.

They'll need to rewrite some of their configs to work with 10.11. It's possible removing that CIVIL_LABELER_XML will fix that, however the contents may be blank if newer Bentley dgnlibs (containing labeler information) were added to the 10.11 workspace.

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Karl Detrick — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 16:17:13 GMT

we also tried no workspace, ORD out of the box setting same results

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Karl Detrick — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 16:13:31 GMT

Shawn, we are running 10.11.00.115

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Shawn Cooke — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 13:20:30 GMT

What version of ORD are you running? Are you seeing the "manager" access button in either instance? It doesn't appear to be showing in your screenshot. NYSDOT's current ORD workspace is set for 10.10.21.04 (2021 R2). Is it possible you're running 2022 R1 and their configuration is loading 2021 R2 information (e.g. CIVIL_LABELER_XML)?

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Karl Detrick — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 12:29:36 GMT

tried this with no workset and out of the box openroads, same thing,

RE: civil labler wont load, it flashes for second and turns white

Karl Detrick — Wed, 08 Mar 2023 20:50:27 GMT

my custom NYSDOT set up pulling the NYSDOT version of the labler