Openroads Cross Section Annotation Stacking of Callouts

RE: Openroads Cross Section Annotation Stacking of Callouts

Shawn Cooke — Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:43:45 GMT

Paul Cusack There are a few other tabs of settings and unclear (possibly outdated) requirements this method needs to work as you present (e.g. requirement for Text Favs).. but good to know it appears to work that way with some tweaking! Please share if you're familiar with a training video or learning path that specifically walks the user through those settings.

RE: Openroads Cross Section Annotation Stacking of Callouts

Paul Cusack — Wed, 14 Jun 2023 05:23:06 GMT

Frame annotation can be used with the collision settings to bend the leaders and annotate the drawing models.

RE: Openroads Cross Section Annotation Stacking of Callouts

Shawn Cooke — Tue, 13 Jun 2023 21:56:43 GMT

Ok, to clarify the process suggested in previous comments to annotate Matt's example image area (EOP).. without manual labels...

Step 1: Run Cross Section Named Boundaries with a base Annotation Group (Result: Sheets and Drawings are created with Grid, Slopes and normal labels you've determined will not to be bent. In this case, the EOP will not get labeled in this first step.

Step 2: Open a Drawing Model of one of the created sections, select the Drawing Production tab's "Drawing Annotation" tool, enable the All Drawing Models check box (pictured below) to add labels from an Annotation Group set to ONLY annotate the LT and RT using an Annotation Group filters that finds the EOP LT and RT (each will need a respective Annotation Definition added to this Annotation Group. These two Definitions will contain a filter and Label Cell (w/ the text fav) that shifts the label as shown in the desired image with bent annotations.

RE: Openroads Cross Section Annotation Stacking of Callouts

Aaron Adviento — Tue, 13 Jun 2023 16:53:39 GMT

Based off of what I have read here and to my understanding, I don't believe this is possible. Is Shawn suggesting you create the sections, annotate with an annotation group (automatically), then figure out where overlaps occur, revise the annotation group to avoid labeling certain points, then go and manually label those points and areas where overlap occurs to "shift" labels around? This seems more iterative and completely misses the mark on why we have annotation groups in the first place. I'm very confused as to how this should be approached.

RE: Openroads Cross Section Annotation Stacking of Callouts

Matt Bombace — Tue, 13 Jun 2023 16:23:09 GMT

Shawn Cooke Yes sir. That was my thought as well. You're last sentence is the portion I am struggling with, how to "trigger" the shifted version to run in a congested Annotation scenario, automatically.

RE: Openroads Cross Section Annotation Stacking of Callouts

Shawn Cooke — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 14:06:36 GMT

By "automated" are you suggesting you only want to run annotations at section creation? The Annotation groups can be stacked after the first run, so exclude from the initial run "automated" Annotation Group' Filtered points lists at the bottom of the dialog and add only those shifted versions next. You'll need to get creative about when to run those.

RE: Openroads Cross Section Annotation Stacking of Callouts

Matt Bombace — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 22:06:05 GMT

But how would you trigger one from the other Shawn Cooke when using an "automated" Annotation (Group)? I could not think of any items that may be used as "triggers" to que up the offset leader for those tight areas where the annotations stack?

RE: Openroads Cross Section Annotation Stacking of Callouts

Shawn Cooke — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 21:54:38 GMT

Sorry, Matt Bombace I did see this but didn't have time when first noticed. My only thought would be to have separate alternate annotation groups ran independently for those tighter areas, specifically isolating each side and label respectively (e.g. bent EOP, non-bent Back of Curb). - By "ran" I mean, using the Drawing Model Annotation tool after drawings are created.

RE: Openroads Cross Section Annotation Stacking of Callouts

Aaron Adviento — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 19:15:30 GMT

Hi Matt, did you ever figure out how to implement the bend in the annotation group so it does it automatically?