Meeting Proposed Terrain with Existing Terrain at Proposed Boundary

Hoping this question is a fairly straightforward one but I haven't found a solution online. I'm trying to make my proposed terrain match the existing terrain at the boundary of the proposed work. What's the best way to accomplish this?

Thank you!

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  • How are you generating your proposed terrain? The method used may determine the solution. Please be as descriptive as you can.

    Which version of the software are you using? Specific version numbers (10.xx.xx.xxx) are most useful.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

  • The proposed terrain has been generated using contours and a boundary. I will also be adding a few corridors at some point.

    I've been using OpenRoads Designer 2022 R1 10.11.00.015.

  • Thank you both for the help. 

    I am getting the "Element not valid for tool" message when attempting to set a Terrain Feature Definition AND when attempting to use profile from surface. I also attempted this after breaking the shape into a line string, which did not work.

  • Where did this boundary come from? Is it something you drew? Is it a 3D line in your 3D model?

    Is it dependent on your proposed design features - defined as 4:1 slope for 20' for example? If that's the case, it already has an elevation based on your design.

    I'll admit, I've never tried to use contours to create a proposed terrain. Usually my proposed contours are a product of my design, not the source.

    It's possible you will have to add some other type of design element to project from your contoured region down to existing ground. This could probably be done with a simple linear template along the lowest design element.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

  • The boundary is a 3D line in the 3D model. I personally did not draw in this boundary, but to my knowledge it was merely drawn in as simple linework. The boundary is not dependent on proposed design features. Currently, the entire boundary is set to one uniform elevation.

  • I believe this is the problem. We need to create a feature from this boundary, but I am not sure that 3D elements in the 3D model can be features.

    Can you go to the 2D model and create a horizontal feature? I believe the best way might be to use the "Single Offset Entire Element" tool, using an offset of 0. Once you have that horizontal feature in your 2D model, you should be able to assign a profile from your existing surface. After you have done that, I believe you can add it to your terrain.

    There may be other ways to accomplish this. There could also be other steps you need to take to adjust your modeling to best represent what you really need.

    MaryB

    Power GeoPak 08.11.09.918
    Power InRoads 08.11.09.918
    OpenRoads Designer 2021 R2

        

    Answer Verified By: Kevin Maus 

  • This worked! I did the following:

    • Created a separate 2D file
    • Referenced in the boundary linework and created a 2D copy using the element offset of zero
    • Dropped the shape and "re-formed" it as a line string
    • Referenced in the existing terrain and assigned the line string profile from the terrain
    • Referenced this 2D file back into the main proposed surface file
    • Added the new boundary to the proposed surface

    Thanks for all of your help!

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  • This worked! I did the following:

    • Created a separate 2D file
    • Referenced in the boundary linework and created a 2D copy using the element offset of zero
    • Dropped the shape and "re-formed" it as a line string
    • Referenced in the existing terrain and assigned the line string profile from the terrain
    • Referenced this 2D file back into the main proposed surface file
    • Added the new boundary to the proposed surface

    Thanks for all of your help!

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