CR-Power Civil: Variable Slope Element

I have posted this request before but I want to make sure it is noticed as this is a problem I run into frequently. Power Civil has no tools to grade UP to daylight from an element that is in FILL or vice versa when the slope to daylight must vary. We need the ability to vary the slope of slope elements. Please see the screen capture.
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  • Neil

    Does the variable slope functioanlity cover what you require? Object > Edit, Slopes tab - and set 'Side Slope' to 'Dynamic Slopes'

    In the screen shot, I have amended the default slopes of 1 in 3 to vary along the side of the car park.

    Mark



  • Neil, if I am reading your posting correctly, you are requesting a variable slope option for the Element>Side Slope tool.

    The Element Side Slope tool can be forced to slope up to a surface from an element when the element is in the Fill condition but it does not offer a variable slope option.

    The current tool could be run multiple times with the different required slopes to generate multiple Site Elements that can then be trimmed (Element>Modify tools) to create the desired result.

    I can certainly submit an enhancement request for "variable slope" to be added to the Element Side Slope tool.

    Neil; Would this enhancement provide the requested functionality (at least in theory)?

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  • Neil, if I am reading your posting correctly, you are requesting a variable slope option for the Element>Side Slope tool.

    The Element Side Slope tool can be forced to slope up to a surface from an element when the element is in the Fill condition but it does not offer a variable slope option.

    The current tool could be run multiple times with the different required slopes to generate multiple Site Elements that can then be trimmed (Element>Modify tools) to create the desired result.

    I can certainly submit an enhancement request for "variable slope" to be added to the Element Side Slope tool.

    Neil; Would this enhancement provide the requested functionality (at least in theory)?

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  • Yes I am referring to the element side slope tool. Your workaround does not give the desired results as it would not provide transitions between the slope variations. Also once the elements are trimmed they lose association to the parent elements. I'm thinking that the Slope Element tool could have the ability to specify a varying slope  relationship, much like we can do with the Element New/Create tool. This would provide solutions in situations where we need to fill low areas to prevent ponding along a road or ditch and a single slope value does not find daylight. We also need the ability to apply negative slopes using the Dynamic Slope option that Mark presented so that we could handle the situation either parametrically with the slope settings or by creating an associated dynamic element.

    While on the topic, there are also many situations where we only want a slope element applied to a portion of the parent element. For example on the perimeter of a parking lot we may need to project to daylight along one area and then transition to a wall or building. Currently we have no way to apply the slope element to a portion of an element. This forces messy workarounds such as breaking elements or creating additional objects and draping duplicate elements. HAving the ability to apply daylight to a range along an element along with variable slope would solve many of these issues.

    Neil Wilson (aka Neilw)

    Power Civil v8i 08.11.07.245

    AutoCAD Civil 3D 2018

  • I understand...

     

    I'll create and enhancement request that includes both variable slope AND linear range.

  • Neil,

    there was already a story created (story = enhancement request) for these functional additions to the Element>Side Slope tool.

    For your reference, the story is: S-45602

     

  • That's great to know. One more feature to this request that would make the tool really effective would be a preview of the solution before accepting the results. This would allow us to make tweaks to the parameters to get the desired results, especially when the slope needs to vary to find existing ground. Without a preview we may get unexpected results which could cause a crash and loss of data. Thank you very much for following through with this Michael.

    Neil Wilson (aka Neilw)

    Power Civil v8i 08.11.07.245

    AutoCAD Civil 3D 2018