Inroads Site Modeler Issue

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

MichaelGilham — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:09:48 GMT

Well, that'll be the last time I rely on my memory :-)

You are correct.

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

aucivil — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:58:28 GMT

When I run the wizard it assigns a boundary feature to the building. Not a big deal to change, now that I know how, but seems as though it could be set within the wizard.

Thanks again.

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

MichaelGilham — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:50:02 GMT

If I recall correctly, all elements are created as breaklines and, if deemed necessary based on the shape of the elements you create you require a "boundary" feature, you would reassign the DTM feature type once the wizard is complete.

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

aucivil — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:39:08 GMT

Thanks, you are correct. I thought I was setting the inner up as a breakline but I found the Change Attributes command and sure enough the pad was a boundary.

Now my question for my next question: Are pads set up automatically as a boundary element in the wizard or can I change it to a breakline during creation? Seems that the option would be in the "Surface Type" setting but I can't find it.

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

MichaelGilham — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:01:40 GMT

Hi,

as suggested earlier - the internal element is a "Boundary" DTM feature and the external element is a "breakline" DTM feature.

These need to be reversed and all will be fine.

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

aucivil — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:21:37 GMT

Michael Gilham:

IIf you can post the DGN and GSF, I would be happy to debug this for you.

Files Attached

Thanks

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

aucivil — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:43:40 GMT

Keeps timing out - I'll create a smaller file and post

Thanks

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

aucivil — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:38:48 GMT

Both elements, pad and grading area perimiter, were created in Microstation at elevation 0. The inner square was selected as a building pad (level, draped to maximum elevation). The outer was selected and referenced to the pad with a -2% slope.

However, if I start by creating a pad by selecting the outer square then create the inner using the edit/create element and reference the outer square with slope/offset it works.

Same procedure just reversed order of creation.

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

MichaelGilham — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:27:08 GMT

In theory, both elements should be included in the same surface.

If they are, then the side slopes are applied to the outside of the surface to tie down/up to the Model.

If this is the case, that both elements are in the same surface, then you should not see the result you have displayed.

If you can post the DGN and GSF, I would be happy to debug this for you.

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

caddcop — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:11:44 GMT

My guess is that both are are the same elevation and both have slopes assigned to them so it zigs and zags between the two different slopes.

Re: Inroads Site Modeler Issue

MichaelGilham — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:03:26 GMT

Hi,

difficult to tell what the problem is from the attached images. Only thing that comes immediately to mind is what DTM feature type did you assign to the elements. For safetys sake, set them both to "breakline" (if you havent already)

If this isnt the issue, please enable the triangles and repost and image with the triangles displayed.

Thanks,