Cross Sections ignoring intersecting point with existing surface

We have a designed jug handle along with working component templates; however, Our Cut/Fill lines are ignoring the existing surface on a few of the stations when we create our cross sections. I've followed the VAOT InRoads manual closely but I can't seem to figure out what exactly is wrong. To help explain my situation, I've attached some pictures.

I've created the templates and ran them thorough the Roadway Designer. Everything came out successful. As shown below:

However this is what the section looks like when it's displayed on the cross section (Note: the dotted line is the existing surface and the proposed surface's cut line intersects it approximately 4' to the right.)

Some additional information: I'm using Microstation V8.5 and InRoads V8.7 (due to client restrictions). Any help would be great!

Thanks in advance,

-Dom

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  • I cannot really make out the image.  The roadway modeler image appears good.  There are definite disadvantages to using the 8.7 version vs the 8.11.  There has been significant improvements including how the modeler generates and solves end conditions.  Not sure what the client issues are but holding that far back on versions is going to have ramifications. 

    There are instances where components are not generated, for example on the inside of a curve  where a feature may double back, or if there is an interruption in features like a transition from a ditch to a fill, there will be a gap. 

    If you drop templates close say at a 5ft interval this will reduce the gap, and if horizontal and vertical chord height tolerances are enabled this will also reduce the gaps. 

    You can also display the triangulated surface model in the cross section to see where it solved across component gaps.

    Mike Longstreet
    Vermont Agency of Transportation
    Civil Engineering Technical Support
    VTCAD Help

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  • I cannot really make out the image.  The roadway modeler image appears good.  There are definite disadvantages to using the 8.7 version vs the 8.11.  There has been significant improvements including how the modeler generates and solves end conditions.  Not sure what the client issues are but holding that far back on versions is going to have ramifications. 

    There are instances where components are not generated, for example on the inside of a curve  where a feature may double back, or if there is an interruption in features like a transition from a ditch to a fill, there will be a gap. 

    If you drop templates close say at a 5ft interval this will reduce the gap, and if horizontal and vertical chord height tolerances are enabled this will also reduce the gaps. 

    You can also display the triangulated surface model in the cross section to see where it solved across component gaps.

    Mike Longstreet
    Vermont Agency of Transportation
    Civil Engineering Technical Support
    VTCAD Help

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