Problems with superelevation and shoulder rollover locks of my template

Hello guys


Am working on a design, a 4lane divided highway template with raised median barrier and kerbs together with cover drainage, in which the shoulder and the drainage are together, so i built the template and applied it to the corridor, but when i tried to calculate the superelevation for the curved section, i discovered that while in the superelevation mode my template was not well interpreted by inroads, it was picking templates points that are not needed to define the section of the road to be superelevated, it was picking points that were directly above the required points. it would make alot of sense if i include a picture of my template so you guys can have a look at it.

this is a link to the picture of the template: https://hotfile.com/dl/154152787/d2b0877/SUPERELEVATION_PROBLEMS.jpg.html

Please am currently stucked in this stage, pls any suggestion on the possible way to build templates for divided highway with raised median that includes drain and shoulder, just as i have it in the picture above, and it will be able to calculate the superelevation. what i discorvered is that superelevation wizard will always look for all the top points in a template, but from the template i designed some of my points a directly below. so please how do i solve this problem.

Thanks to the entire house, looking forward to your  replies

 
Regards

  • I fixed the Template in question by removing the CL points and changing the face of curb. I don't know how to send this to you because this forum does not allow e-mail addresses to be published.

    I couldn't check the .ird because i need the .alg file as well.

    In the Superelevation, are you using the table method or AASHTO?

    For the Template I removed the center points L_CL AND R_CL and constrained the outside curb lines to the inside curblines with horizontal and slope. This will work as follows when defining the superelevation points. You will need to create 2 separate Superelevation entries. 1 for the left side and 1 for the right side.

    NAME - Left Side of Highway

    CROWNPOINT - L_EOP

    LEFT  RANGE POINT- L_EOP1

    RIGHT RANGE POINT - L_EOP

    For the right side of the Highway

    NAME - Right Side of Highway

    CROWNPOINT - R_EOP

    LEFT RANGE POINT - R_EOP

    RIGHT RANGE POINT - R_EOP1

    When finished you should see in your point controls for Super, 6 lines of Super

    HTH

    Joe.

     

     

     

  • Thanks joe pls could you attach the template file to your post with the built in attach file tool in the forum, so that i can have a look at the modifications that you have made to it. in super elevation i normally use the table method, because it is faster for me.  

    Thanks once more

    AKANDE PAUL

    CDSS NIGERIA (ASST PRODUCT MANAGER AND TRAINER)

    BENTLEY PARTNER IN NIGERIA

  • Thanks joe about to download and check it out, another thing have you heard of  dynamite vps used for road visualization, it is very powerfull, but it autodesk has bought it,  you can easily export your corridor into the program and it does all the visualization for you.

    cheers

    Regards

    AKANDE PAUL

    CDSS NIGERIA (ASST PRODUCT MANAGER AND TRAINER)

    BENTLEY PARTNER IN NIGERIA

  • joe thanks alot i checked out the template it was amazing all the changes you made to it, it now worked properly with superelevations, Joe pls just one very important thing, pls have you ever used AUTOCAD with inroads, actually our design office is a multi cad environment, we are running inroads v8i SS2 on both microstation and Autocad, everything seems to be okay with microstation when i want to cut out plan and profile sheet, but when i try it with autocad there is an interuption and the command will terminate.

    What am saying is, have you had any experience using autocad with inroads, most especially for plan and profile production

    Thanks for all your endless advice and recommendations, i could not have  been able to get to the stage i am,

    JOE THANKS

    REGARDS

    AKANDE PAUL

    CDSS NIGERIA (ASST PRODUCT MANAGER AND TRAINER)

    BENTLEY PARTNER IN NIGERIA