[IR SS2] Survey: Custom Operations how to rotated to the actual line

HI All,

I like to know if I can rotate "InRoads Survey Custom Operations" like

AC="Cellname" or 'Textlines with the acutal angle of the line that is already started:

FWD:example

POS                  34
FCRD                     N:   5507977.325  E:   3405893.521  Z:       250.432
CODE    WTRLN ST  
ATTR                LBZ MMK 22°
               

POS                  35
FCRD                     N:   5507966.843  E:   3405886.919  Z:       250.583
CODE    929    
ATTR                LBZ MMK 45°
               

POS                  36
FCRD                     N:   5507953.244  E:   3405877.420  Z:       250.827
CODE    929    
ATTR                LBZ MMK 22°
              

My code WTRLN starts a line (ST) and I like to draw the attribute LBZ at every point rotated 90° to this line segment  like this:

But I can not find a setting how to set this angle.

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

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  • If you assign a named symbology with the plan or default text rotation to relative to object, and a 90 degree rotation, the custom codes for that Alpha Code should rotate to the segment begins with that particular point.

    I have used this with a pipe invert code and a zero angle to place text aligned with the pipe. As I recall, the last point, which has no following segment will use the same rotation as the previous point.


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • If you assign a named symbology with the plan or default text rotation to relative to object, and a 90 degree rotation,

    Yes, this rotates my text  '$(ELEVATION) but NOT the AC=$(SYM) where SYM is a attribut of the point and is my cell name

    example custom operation:

    LV=SSN_NAR_NACHR_STEUERKABEL_SY
    AC=$(SYM)
    RESET
    LV=SSN_NAR_NACHR_STEUERKABEL_HOEHE_TX
    DX=-1
    DY=-4
    '$(ELEVATION)
    RESET

    That the last hurdle:

    Regards

    Frank

    since 1985: GIS, CAD, Engineering (Civil)  Senior Consultant : [Autodesk Civil 3D , Esri ArcGIS, VertiGIS: in previous days : Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Bentley Map V8i, InRoads,  HHK Geograf, IBr DAVID] :  Dev: [C, C++, .NET, Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML]
    [direct quote by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt]: "Wer Kritik übel nimmt, hat etwas zu verbergen"
    Wer Grammatik- und/oder Rechtschreibfehler findet, der darf sie behalten :-)

  • What about using the same relative rotation in the point named symbology?


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • What about using the same relative rotation in the point named symbology?

    Yes, I tried it, no change, the AC=$(SYM) will not rotate!

    Regards

    Frank

    since 1985: GIS, CAD, Engineering (Civil)  Senior Consultant : [Autodesk Civil 3D , Esri ArcGIS, VertiGIS: in previous days : Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Bentley Map V8i, InRoads,  HHK Geograf, IBr DAVID] :  Dev: [C, C++, .NET, Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML]
    [direct quote by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt]: "Wer Kritik übel nimmt, hat etwas zu verbergen"
    Wer Grammatik- und/oder Rechtschreibfehler findet, der darf sie behalten :-)

  • Even this does not rotate AC=$(SYM) to AA=($ANGLE) the last AA=0 wins for the whole custom operation!

    LV=SSN_NAR_NACHR_STEUERKABEL_SY
    ANGLE=133
    AA=$(ANGLE)
    AC=$(SYM)
    RESET
    LV=SSN_NAR_NACHR_STEUERKABEL_HOEHE_TX
    DX=-1
    DY=-4
    RESET
    AA=0
    '$(ELEVATION)
    RESET

    And if I read the help file correct: This seems to be WAD!?

    IR-Help-File

    Note that if you turn on the Include Custom Operations, Symbols and Cells in a Single Cell option on the General tab of the Survey Options dialog box, cells and symbols – even those that were defined outside of custom operations – will honor the active angle defined within custom operation

    Oh... I misread and  have not set: Include Custom Operations, Symbols and Cells in a Single Cell option

    CR: filed: 8001400217: Change behaviour of AA=  AC=  with respect to Point symbology "angle relative to object" and AA= never overwrites ALL angle settings!

    Using MS 8.11.09.292 (en) and IR8.11.07.566(en)

    Regards

    Frank

    since 1985: GIS, CAD, Engineering (Civil)  Senior Consultant : [Autodesk Civil 3D , Esri ArcGIS, VertiGIS: in previous days : Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Bentley Map V8i, InRoads,  HHK Geograf, IBr DAVID] :  Dev: [C, C++, .NET, Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML]
    [direct quote by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt]: "Wer Kritik übel nimmt, hat etwas zu verbergen"
    Wer Grammatik- und/oder Rechtschreibfehler findet, der darf sie behalten :-)

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  • Even this does not rotate AC=$(SYM) to AA=($ANGLE) the last AA=0 wins for the whole custom operation!

    LV=SSN_NAR_NACHR_STEUERKABEL_SY
    ANGLE=133
    AA=$(ANGLE)
    AC=$(SYM)
    RESET
    LV=SSN_NAR_NACHR_STEUERKABEL_HOEHE_TX
    DX=-1
    DY=-4
    RESET
    AA=0
    '$(ELEVATION)
    RESET

    And if I read the help file correct: This seems to be WAD!?

    IR-Help-File

    Note that if you turn on the Include Custom Operations, Symbols and Cells in a Single Cell option on the General tab of the Survey Options dialog box, cells and symbols – even those that were defined outside of custom operations – will honor the active angle defined within custom operation

    Oh... I misread and  have not set: Include Custom Operations, Symbols and Cells in a Single Cell option

    CR: filed: 8001400217: Change behaviour of AA=  AC=  with respect to Point symbology "angle relative to object" and AA= never overwrites ALL angle settings!

    Using MS 8.11.09.292 (en) and IR8.11.07.566(en)

    Regards

    Frank

    since 1985: GIS, CAD, Engineering (Civil)  Senior Consultant : [Autodesk Civil 3D , Esri ArcGIS, VertiGIS: in previous days : Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Bentley Map V8i, InRoads,  HHK Geograf, IBr DAVID] :  Dev: [C, C++, .NET, Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML]
    [direct quote by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt]: "Wer Kritik übel nimmt, hat etwas zu verbergen"
    Wer Grammatik- und/oder Rechtschreibfehler findet, der darf sie behalten :-)

Children
  • You may need to associate the point with a linear element or even define the feature as a linear feature.

    We experimented with using the Join Connecting Line setting to allow another point to define the rotation angle of a point with some success.

    It works similar to how you would connect a line between a guy wire anchor or guy pole to a utility pole. In our setup, we use EP, TP, UP for Electric, Telephone or generic utility pole, respectively. To code the connection of a guy anchor (GUY) to one of these, they can use:

    • GUY-EP
    • GUY-TP
    • GUY-UP
    • GUY JNC EP
    • GUY JNC TP
    • GUY JNC UP

    When they do, with Join Connecting Line enabled, the GUY cell or symbol rotates to align with the line, which is drawn between the GUP and the pole.

    To use this with a cell that we want rotated, they would simply replace the guy with the appropriate alpha code and replace the pole with the alignment shot. That shot could be a spot grade or the last point of some other linear figure. I believe we created a feature that had no settings for 3D/plan display, so no line was actually drawn. Alternatively, you could have a no plot layer that lines used in this way are drawn to.

    One more thing, if using the dash or JNC code, you need to make sure there is no other point closer of the same code. In those cases, you might need to use the JPT # code. If I recall, you might be able to reverse the code (EP-GUY) and have it still work.


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996
  • My feature is a linear feature already, the symbology has LINE, TEXT and POINT symbology set!

    The survey feature settings are:

    I tried both "Symbol" and "Cell"

    As you can see in my hardcopies the line (even with JNC, JPT)  and the unrotated cell AC=$(SYM) is drawn.

    I bet AC=$(CELLNAME) can not be rotated by InRoads with the "angle relative to object"

    And I tried and make use of JPT and JNC, that works like a charm (with unrotated AC=)

    I don't like to use a feature setting for the Point/cell. Custom Operation is good and enough

    Double coding, will work i was told,   first the linear than the point feature for a rotated cell!

    Regards

    Frank

    since 1985: GIS, CAD, Engineering (Civil)  Senior Consultant : [Autodesk Civil 3D , Esri ArcGIS, VertiGIS: in previous days : Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Bentley Map V8i, InRoads,  HHK Geograf, IBr DAVID] :  Dev: [C, C++, .NET, Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML]
    [direct quote by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt]: "Wer Kritik übel nimmt, hat etwas zu verbergen"
    Wer Grammatik- und/oder Rechtschreibfehler findet, der darf sie behalten :-)

  • change request S-84886 filed

    Regards

    Frank

    since 1985: GIS, CAD, Engineering (Civil)  Senior Consultant : [Autodesk Civil 3D , Esri ArcGIS, VertiGIS: in previous days : Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Bentley Map V8i, InRoads,  HHK Geograf, IBr DAVID] :  Dev: [C, C++, .NET, Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML]
    [direct quote by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt]: "Wer Kritik übel nimmt, hat etwas zu verbergen"
    Wer Grammatik- und/oder Rechtschreibfehler findet, der darf sie behalten :-)