Inroads Suite V8i "No triangle side found"

Inroads Suite V8i "No triangle side found" encountered during the triangulation process and halts.  What type of error is this or common causes in the breaklines that would result in this problem?  I have a 3D breakline file that I load into an empty surface using the IMPORT SURFACE ADVANCED tool...It appears to load correctly...then I triangulate the data and it errors.  If I just use the IMPORT SURFACE and load the breaklines by individual levels one at a time...and triangulate...It works.  Puzzled???

JeffB

  • Hi Jeff,
    check your features before triangulation, are there any imported features  with IMPORT SURFACE ADVANCED. Are your rules for IMPORT SURFACE ADVANCED correct, e. g. the Element Types?

    Regards

    Frank

    since 1985: GIS, CAD, Engineering (Civil)  Senior Consultant : [Autodesk Civil 3D , Esri ArcGIS, VertiGIS: in previous days : Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Bentley Map V8i, InRoads,  HHK Geograf, IBr DAVID] :  Dev: [C, C++, .NET, Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML]
    [direct quote by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt]: "Wer Kritik übel nimmt, hat etwas zu verbergen"
    Wer Grammatik- und/oder Rechtschreibfehler findet, der darf sie behalten :-)

  • Frank,

    I set up my import surface advanced routine years ago.  I tested it on a couple of old projects yesterday and it loads the breaklines and the surfaces triangulated.  This project file only has one complex shape for the exterior boundary and the rest of elements are lines and linestrings.  In 25 years of working with DTMs I have never run across the "No triangle side found" critter.  I do not know what needle in the haystack I need to be looking for?   What have I hand drawn in the file or might have come from displaying features from and inroads run?

    Thanks for your time,

    JeffB

  • Hi Jeff,

    In 25 years of working with DTMs...

    You had an civil application 1987, impressive!

    OK to help you further, maybe you will share a small dtm-file, so we have y look at it,

    Regards

    Frank

    since 1985: GIS, CAD, Engineering (Civil)  Senior Consultant : [Autodesk Civil 3D , Esri ArcGIS, VertiGIS: in previous days : Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Bentley Map V8i, InRoads,  HHK Geograf, IBr DAVID] :  Dev: [C, C++, .NET, Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML]
    [direct quote by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt]: "Wer Kritik übel nimmt, hat etwas zu verbergen"
    Wer Grammatik- und/oder Rechtschreibfehler findet, der darf sie behalten :-)

  • After hours of croping and slowly pruning down the five mile corridor...I finally found the one linestring that was giving me fits.  I think the element was currupted somehow....Every time I tried deleting needle in the haystack I got a microsoft framework error followed by two..Yes..two "Microstation has stopped working" boxes..Grin  Went and got a fresh seed file and fence copied in everthing but that one critter and everything is working and loading fine.  I am still curious as what the inroads programmer was culling out in the triangulation process to invoke  a "No triangle side found" response.  I searched help and the web site for quite a long time and never found anything on the subject.  

    I do miss the ole clipper 32 unix box, 16button mouse and tablet and the simplicity of inroads...however I do not miss the overnight triangulation runs...which in todays world and computers would take about a minute! haha

    Cheers    

  • I have had similar experiences - I do not recall the error, but in the pure MDL InRoads, sometimes writing all of the DTM features to an empty file and reimporting them from graphics was enough to fix a DTM that wouldn't triangulate.

    I too miss the CLIX boxes, but only so much. The speed and capabilities of today's software would win the day. But sometimes, simpler was quicker.  


    Charles (Chuck) Rheault
    CADD Manager

    MDOT State Highway Administration

    • MicroStation user since IGDS, InRoads user since TDP.
    • AutoCAD, Land Desktop and Civil 3D, off and on since 1996