SS3 dropping comlex horizontal and profile issue

hi,

I have a complex horizontal alignment with proposed profile designed. I make the proposed profile active and then drop the complex horizontal alignment into pieces. I expected that each individula piece would have its own part of vertical porposed profile. But the profile is empty.

I followed video posted on mbuilds YT channel http://youtu.be/wuTSneMq-Iw 

but it doesn't work like that with my geometry. I have two perpendicular lines filleted with a single arc. I want to break this horizontal alignemnt, delete the arc and extend each of  line a little beyond its crossing point.. As I have proposed profile for the complex alignemnt, I would like to have it for these both lines preserved.

When I break my complex, I can not extend indyvidual lines, and when I try to delete the arc, it deletes all geometry elements.

Thank you for any tips!

Adam

InRoads v8i ss3

  • Actually I can not even partial delete my complex horizontal alignment with microstation tool. I would like to divide my CL in to two independent pieces of horizontal geometry  wiith two seperate vertical alignemnts assigned.

    then let's say I need to extend  (prepend) one of my CL a little but in such a case my profile is moved instead of being extended as well. I guess its because when I designed my primary proposed profile I snpped to the begining of alignment.

    I was quite sure that when you have a complex HA with profile, you can drop it to individual elements with profiles. But it does not work for me.

    Any help is highly appreciated.

    Adam

    Best,

    Adam


    OpenRoads Designer 2022 (10.12)  |  OpenRail Designer 2022 (10.12)

           

  • Adam

    Please send me your file to review. If possible place notes or mark it up to show how you need to modify it.

    concerning the elements used to create the complex inheriting the complex profile...

    A user can create profiles on individual elements > when these are joined in a complex this profiles will appear in the complex profile> they can then be joined [complexes] together or used in part int the complex profile.

    We cannot allow th individual elements to inherit the complex profile as this could cause a circular type dependency .

    Michael Barkasi

    Application Engineer 

    Reality Modeling



  • Hi Mike,

    Concerning "We cannot allow the individual elements to inherit the complex profile as this could cause a circular type dependency  ...”

    While a circular dependency may be created by storing the appropriate portions of the real vertical geometry to the dropped horizontal elements, you could certainly stroke the vertical data and apply a series of point elevations along the dropped horizontal elements to ensure the vertical design is not completely lost.

    This would need to occur at the time that the horizontal complex element is dropped and before the vertical design is deleted.

    This would allow the User to see the elevations of the Horizontal elements in the profile window and, while real vertical geometry would need to be recreated across these elements, at least the original design would not be totally lost and could be used as a guide for the redesign.

    Just a thought...