Create Cut/Fill Map between Surfaces

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I'm calculating the volumes of two surfaces and I need to generate a cut and fill map. I calculated the volumes, how do I generate a cut and fill map?

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  • We have the ability to generate an Isopach Surface through Surface > Design Surface > Generate isopach Surface which will create a cut/fill surface between an existing and design surface.  with this command you can display the symbology for the Staking of the points generated in the Isopach surface by displaying cut and fill symbologies which will be cut/fill between the surfaces.  This will show the areas that are in cut and in fill as well as the cut and fill depth.

    If this doesn't answer your question, can you ellaborate on what you are looking for with the cut/fill map?  


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  • Unknown said:
     This will show the areas that are in cut and in fill as well as the cut and fill depth.

    With that Cut/fill surface Chris mentioned you may draw: "Color-Coded Elevations (Surface/View Surface)

    Unknown said:
     This will show the areas that are in cut and in fill as well as the cut and fill depth.

    But Chris? Where do we get areas (shapes) for cut and fill with "Generate isopach Surface"???

    For me, this whole workflow is OK but slow and with to many steps.

    It is stacked by other Civil-Products from competiors to Bentley to one smooth business workflow, where you get:

    1. Cut and fill Areas and area report.
    2. Cut/fill Surface
    3. very important: a common boundary of both surfaces
    4. a report for every cut/fill triangle calculation!

    with three clicks:

    1. Choose the existing Surface
    2. Chosse the second Surface
    [ choose preferences (maybe already done, by configuration files )]
    3. click "Start", get the results 1 to 4, from above

    There are CR's to get this straight workflow from InRoads in one single step.

    Regards

    Frank

    since 1985: GIS, CAD, Engineering (Civil)  Senior Consultant : [Autodesk Civil 3D , Esri ArcGIS, VertiGIS: in previous days : Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Bentley Map V8i, InRoads,  HHK Geograf, IBr DAVID] :  Dev: [C, C++, .NET, Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML]
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  • Unknown said:
    This will show the areas that are in cut and in fill as well as the cut and fill depth.

    But Chris? Where do we get areas (shapes) for cut and fill with "Generate isopach Surface"???[/quote]

    Use the Evaluation > Hydrology and Hydraulics > pass Through Contours to display the "0" contour.  This contour is the point where the two surfaces intersect.  It will not give you a true cut shape or fill shape throughout the entire surface but it will allow you to see the intersecting point and be able to generate the shapes if desired from the 0 elevation contour and the boundary.


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  • Is there another way to easily display the "0" contour if the "Evaluation > Hydrology and Hydraulics > pass Through Contours" tool is not an available add-on on my version?  I am running PowerSurvey V8i (08.11.09.674).  I am trying to show that 18 inches of soil has been placed on top of the existing contours; I was told to run the Isopach command and am stuck in the final steps.

    Brandon,

    PowerSurvey V8i / InRoads / PondPack user

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  • Is there another way to easily display the "0" contour if the "Evaluation > Hydrology and Hydraulics > pass Through Contours" tool is not an available add-on on my version?  I am running PowerSurvey V8i (08.11.09.674).  I am trying to show that 18 inches of soil has been placed on top of the existing contours; I was told to run the Isopach command and am stuck in the final steps.

    Brandon,

    PowerSurvey V8i / InRoads / PondPack user

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  • I guess that you can display contours with PowerSurvey, can't you?Try to go to surface, View Surface, View Contours then go to Advanced Tab, and set  Elevation limits (high and low). Alternatively you can display all contours and delete all which are not at 0.0 elevation.

    Take notice that I can not check whether that that will work with Powersurvey as I am running InRoads.

    Adam

  • Adam

    The PowerSurvey SS2 DTM tools are the same as InRoads SS2, but not all are available.

    After doing the isopach command, the resulting DTM can be displayed with "Display contours" . If the first and second DTM are really cutting themselves, then   the 0-Zero contour can be displayed only when setting a huge intervall value, like 1000.

    There is a open CR for doing:

    • Isopach command
    • displaying 0 zero Contour and
    • Cut and Fill Shaped areas
    • calculation cut and fill volume
    • dividing cut and fill surface in two own DTM-files, with correct exterior boundaries

    within one seamless work flow

    Regards

    Frank

    since 1985: GIS, CAD, Engineering (Civil)  Senior Consultant : [Autodesk Civil 3D , Esri ArcGIS, VertiGIS: in previous days : Bentley MS V4 - V8i, GeoGraphics, Bentley Map V8i, InRoads,  HHK Geograf, IBr DAVID] :  Dev: [C, C++, .NET, Java, SQL, FORTRAN, UML]
    [direct quote by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt]: "Wer Kritik übel nimmt, hat etwas zu verbergen"
    Wer Grammatik- und/oder Rechtschreibfehler findet, der darf sie behalten :-)