GEOPAK SS3 - XS Sheet Label Symbology

I am trying to use GEOPAK SS3 for a production plan and here is my latest issue.

I cut XS cells successfully in SS3.  I then used GEOPAK SS2s cross-section sheeting tool while in the same MS session launched with "Load_GEOPAK_SS3=1" used.  Nearly every, but not all, XS Sheet labels are on the wrong level (Sheet labels for elevation, offset, station).

When I load MS with "Load_GEOPAK_SS2=1" and cut sheets from the same file using the same .xssl file all of the labels are on the correct level.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?

This begs the question:  There are a lot of downstream tasks necessary for creating a final plan.  Is it recommended to switch back and forth between a "Load_GEOPAK_SS3=1" and a "Load_GEOPAK_SS2=1" environment?

Josh Mauritz

  • We do not recommend switching between versions on a project.  All the tools you need for cross section sheeting and lableing are available in SS3, so there is no need to go back to SS2.

    The problem you describe below could be caused by switching the data between the two versions.

  • There are too many tasks that are not found in SS3.  Some of them that come to mind are:

    Plan/Profile Sheet cutting

    Plan View Labeler

    Draw Profile Tool

    Profile Labeler

    Drainage

    Using DDB to draw Pavement Marking

    Quantity Manager

    etc.

    Several of Benley's own video presentations specifically illustrate how to use SS3 to create GEOPAK-flavored cross-section cells for use in the downstream processes such as sheet cutting, labeling, and earthwork.

    We were also told that geometry, Survey, etc. is exportable to the native dabase (GPK, InRoads, etc.) in order to continue to use the downstream tasks provided in SS2.  In my opinion there are too many tools that didn't make it into SS3 yet that are requred to produce a biddable, constructable planset.

    Now we are being told NOT to switch back to using SS2.  Please explain.

  • Let me try to clarify, feel free to ask more question if I don't address them.

    All the tools you list above are in the SS3 product.  In this first release of SS3, it was our goal to introduce the new "Open Roads" design tools for designing/modeling, then utilize the "Native" GEOPAK tools for plans production.  Therefore the common workflow will be to create your corridor/model in the OpenRoads tools, then export the GPK/TIN files necessary to use in the native GEOPAK commands for plans productions.  

    So for example, the Plan/Profile Sheet cutting/Plan View  Labeler/Draw Profile Tool/Pavement Markings are all still found in the GEOPAK>ROAD>Plans Preperation menu in SS3, just the method for creating the GPK and TINs are expanded with the use of the Open Roads tools.

  • Kevin,

    Thanks for the reply.  Please re-read my original post and take a look at the attached files.  I used the GEOPAK>ROAD>Cross Sections>Cross Section Sheet Composition tool while in a SS3 session.  That is when I noticed the symbology problems noted in my original post (3578_701_SS3.dgn).  If I run the same tool while in a SS2 session (with the same underlying files) the symbology on the resulting sheets is correct (3578_701_SS2.dgn).  Please note that some of the labels placed in an SS3 session are correct, but it seems like only the first label placed of each type (station, offset, elevation) are honoring my xssl settings.

    As for the other tools I will investigate them further tomorrow.

    Thank you,

    Josh

    3578_701_SS3.zip
  • I reviewed the process and have reproduced the issue.  I have filed a defect against the SS3 product.  The defedt number is D-129883.


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