I started a new thread with a new Subject in order to appeal to a larger audience...
I am trying to work my way through an entire production design/plan preparation sequence using GEOPAK SS3 and am running into a few stumbling blocks. I realize that the SS2 tools still exist in SS3, but many of them don't function the same way. Some of them that come to mind are:
Plan/Profile Sheet cutting
Plan View Labeler
Draw Profile Tool
Profile Labeler
Drainage
Using DDB to draw Pavement Marking
Quantity Manager
etc.
I understand that we can export alignment data and terrain data back to the native gpk and tin files, and then continue to use the SS2 tools found in SS3 to finish a plan set.
Once I have a final H and V alignment things work pretty smoothly, but I'm having a hard time getting there. Currently I am struggling with the Profile tools in SS3. Is there a way to use a GEOPAK Profile Cell in order to use the Draw Profile tool to display various profiles? So much of how I design profiles relies on profiles that are cut from a surface at the right-of-way for instance, or maybe I graphically offset an existing (or proposed) profile vertically in order to help design a new profile. I often utilize other graphics shown in a profile view to design a CL profile. I noticed that you can't even attach other profile views as references. Active Chain Control doesn't work in a profile view, but that seems to have been replaced with Civl Accudraw. The list goes on and on. So much of this seems impossible in SS3.
I'm curious what others' experience has been with regard to an entire start-to-finish workflow on a roadway project.
Josh Mauritz
Josh: At a high level you need to think of your workflow in two parts. Part 1 is design using OpenRoads tools and part 2 is plans produciton using the older tools. Mixing OpenRoads tools with older geometry tools for design phase will most likely be an unsatisfying exercise.
To specifically address your profile design questions:
Merry Christmas
Robert
Robert GarrettSenior Product EngineerBentley Systems Inc.
Answer Verified By: Josh M
Robert,
Thanks for the reply. This is by far the clearest explanation I have seen of the proper workflow for profile creation. I also finally understand how far to take the OpenRoad tools, and when to switch back to the SS2 tools for plan production. I was quickly turned off when one of the first tools I tried (GEOPAK XS Sheet composition) doesn't work properly when run from SS3. Apparently this has since been submitted as a bug.
I'm not quite ready to abandon SS3, and I will continue to work through this "pilot project" of mine to see what else I might have trouble with. Hopefully it won't be a long list :).
Thanks again,
Josh