OpenRoads Display Crossing Utilites in Profile Model

What is the procedure for displaying crossing features, such as utilities, in an OpenRoads profile model?  The utilities were developed using the SUE tools delivered with the 674 version of OpenRoads.

Marcx

  • Just as a follow up to this; I have been able to display the location of the crossing utility by using the "Profile Intersection Point" command.  But, this only displays a single dot.  How can I get it to display a circle corresponding to the pipe size?  Or at a minimum, display as a cell.

  • Marc: For current versions, the profile view is a design view only and lacks some capabilities such as showing the cross-sectional shapes of crossed utilities that are more plans production oriented.  I suggest the following, the first of which you have already discovered:

    1. The profile intersection point command will provide a point where the road alignment and utility alignment cross.  The elevation will be the utility profile elevation which could be center of pipe, invert of pipe or soffit of pipe, depending on how the pipe feature defintion is defined.
    2. Use the quick profile from surface command might provide useful infomration. Pick the 3D pipe in 3D model.  I say "might" because I have not tested this command using pipes and it was not designed for this purpose.  Potentially, it will show the top surface of the pipe in profile, but not the full circle.

    Work is underway for adding the capabilities you ask about in a future version.

    Robert Garrett
    Senior Product Engineer
    Bentley Systems Inc.



  • Robert,

    Thanks for the reply.  I think I may have figured out what was going on at my end and was wondering if you could confirm this workflow?

    I have an element template which has a point cell defined.  I created a linear feature definition and assigned the intersection profile to be the element template.

    If I draw a line representing a gas main using this feature definition and then import said feature into my SUE database the intersected profile display as the properly defined cell.

    If I draw a line using the active Micfrostaion level, also representing a gas main, and then import that line into the SUE database the interseted profile only displays as a dot; even though I am using the same element tempalte for both secenerios.

    Under both secenerios I am assigning a conduit feature defintion on import into the database.

    Marc

  • Hey Marc:  Let me try to explain what you are seeing:

    • In your first case, you are creating an OpenRoads line with a Road/Site feature defintion.  When you use intersect profile command, the precense of the cell in profile is controlled by the Road/Site feature defintion, which still exists on the line.  The key point here is that it is the Road/Site feature defintion controlling the precense of the cell not SUE.
    • In your second case, the Microstation line never had a Road feature defintion, thus no cell in profile.

    And yes, this does represent a situation where the Road/Site feature defintion and the SUE feature defintion are not as aware of each other as they should be.  They will move closer together in future versions.

    Robert Garrett
    Senior Product Engineer
    Bentley Systems Inc.