How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

Ken Crawford — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 08:29:19 GMT

Now, that's gettin' to the nub of things . . . I agree, I agree. The simpler approach, though, would be to just allow objects to be projected into profile views like they used to have it with InRoads, but there may be a programming issue that won't allow that now that the views are all dynamic, I don't know.

I just look forward to a solution some day.

Thanks again.

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

Mark Shamoun — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 08:23:08 GMT

Hi Ken,

Yeah I can't figure out the depth side of things either - an enhancement to allow us to specify a forward/back depth would be great!

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

Ken Crawford — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 05:48:37 GMT

Thanks, Mark.

I did (sort of) figure that part out, but not sure how to set the amount of depth. I can do this in section cuts (set forward and back depth), but for profiles it seems to be either all clipped or not clipped (which shows everything in front of/behind the alignment, but I only want to show a certain "depth" front/back of the alignment, say 1 foot or snapping to the front/back edges of elements.

I'll keep exploring and learning, and I truly appreciate the pointers. Thanks much!

Ken

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

Mark Shamoun — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 05:38:15 GMT

Hi Ken,

You can extend the Profile 3d Cut function to display elements in front or behind the alignment by going to the Profiles 3d model reference in the reference dialog (created with the 3d cut function), right click and go to "Presentation". In the Presentation dialog that opens, enable the Forward and Back options under Clip Volume settings and then when you reresh your 3d cut you will see everything in your 3d model in front or behind the alignment.

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

Ken Crawford — Fri, 12 Jul 2019 06:09:33 GMT

Thanks, Mark, but I'm not sure what you mean by that. I have a referenced model of the wall (all 3D solids) that I'd like to project into the profile of the wall alignment. I can do a 3D Cut into the profile window, but not sure what you mean by "projecting the wall levels." Any further guidance here? Thanks in advance!

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

Mark Shamoun — Fri, 12 Jul 2019 01:20:37 GMT

Hi Ken,

Can you just use the vertical geometry tools to project the sheet piling wall levels to your profile using 0 vertical offset or crossfall? This would also dynamically update on change.

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

Ken Crawford — Thu, 11 Jul 2019 03:50:02 GMT

Exactly my dilemma in designing a sheet piling wall along a river. My profiles need to show the wall, almost as if it were an elevation view, or at least projected into the profile; our local Dept of Environmental Protection requires this. The best I can do now (but I may be missing something) is to do a model "cut" along the profile, but that only picks up the object(s) that actually intersect the profile; the Z–fold sheet pilings only follow along their back planes, so there are "missing" gaps all along the profile. I then have to go to my corresponding profile drawing models and hand draft all the connecting pieces —needless to say, a major pain and all lost when the alignment shifts.

So I for one am eager for this to get further developed.

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

ajs — Wed, 04 Jun 2014 02:08:47 GMT

Can you give more detailed direction for this - to show additional 3D information in the OpenRoads profiles? I have an element template for a ditch centerline.

1. What in the element template needs to be set?

2. What specifically needs to be set in the feature definition?

I'm using Geopak SS3 and Microstation SS3

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

Adam Wieczorek — Tue, 27 May 2014 13:35:29 GMT

Marc,

Thanks for your tip. Just need to remember about profile exaggeration. We need to ensure that graphic scale is not exaggerated prior to copy/paste operation. It works fine.

Adam

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

Marc Bachand — Tue, 27 May 2014 12:08:33 GMT

The only objects that can be shown in the profile model as crossing features are geomteric (3d or horizontal geometry with active vertical alignment) lines which have an assigned feature definition and an element template with crossing point defined. Nothing else will disply in this view.

Adam, for your simple example, if you have a profile window developed using legacy profile tools you can copy/paste graphics from this profile into the profile model of OpenRoads. You just need a common point of reference (i.e. lower left corner of the profile window) to use as the copy/paste origin.

Marc

RE: How to show 3D lines/objects in OpenRoads Profile?

Adam Wieczorek — Sat, 24 May 2014 07:09:39 GMT

I wish we could attach reference files to profile views or as you wrote draw culverts, bridges, geology subsurfaces, etc in profile view. It is realy cumbersome to designe your profile without that information. Displaying crossing features of 3D objects it is not enough. Simple example. to import previously designed profiles from graphic I need to use old InRoads tools.

What are OpenRoads development plans for profile designing? I am sure there are some.

Thanks,

Adam